[Noisebridge-discuss] March 30th Fundraiser? Yay or nay?

Robert Benson sf99er at gmail.com
Sun Mar 10 03:39:27 UTC 2013

while i admit that i am someone you met at occupy and i was involved with
the media team, the rest of your previous comment is pure hyperbole and
libel (not threatening suit, just stating the facts):
"He almost singlehandedly managed the finances of OccupySF"
*hyperbole - occupysf's finance committee is concensus based, the only
discretion that I exercise is with the petty cash requests under $50 -
non-petty cash requests were decided by the ga in the end and requests
under $250 by the finance committee in the beginning.
"He would frequently schedule meetings at times when most people happened
to be unavailable."*
libel - I did not schedule meeting times; they were decided by consensus,
based on when active finance committee members were available.

"*There was no small consternation over his decision to take sole control
of the occupysf at gmail alias*"
libel - i assume you are referring to occupysfcommunications at gmail and the
only consternation with the account was when the only two admins announced
their departure from occupysf to start occupy bay area united after the
mission smashy-smashy rally/march against gentrification before may day. i
merely changed the password after their announcement and invited any and
all active members to assist me. incidentally, only one person agreed to
assist, yet never actually followed through.

"*There is also the matter of the missing money - at least $9000 is
unaccounted for. This is the money that I was told, by Finance, was
remaining at the conclusion/diffusion of the movement, ultimately never to
be seen again. This is in addition to monies that went missing during the
course of things*."
libel - there was an incident, before we got a trust account, where ryan
convinced the ga to split up about $6000 among 5 people and 2 of them never
returned; aside from that, the only other incident was when we discovered
pirate mike was buying beer for the peacekeepers and we removed him from
his position as treasurer. where do you get the $9000 figure and who is
"Finance", i've never met her/him before. additionally, the ga stopped
meeting in october 2012 and only a few hundred dollars remained which went
to storage & sprint contract for livestreaming the cops, ga's and events.

"*While I do not know what happened to that money, and have little personal
beef with Robb,*"
libel - the first 1/2 implies a false set of facts (see above) and the
second 1/2 is seemingly accurate (can't read your mind).

"*I do not think it would be the best plan for him, or some mysterious 3rd
party presented by him, to handle money on noisebridge's behalf.*"
ok, my bad, this statement is neither hyperbole nor libel, it's just your
opinion and you are entitled to it, even if it's misinformed. although, i
must assert that the "mysterious 3rd party presented by him" is stan at spaz,
who is a well trusted member of the noisebridge community and has forgotten
more about hacking that you and i will ever know, and he asked about who
was handling the "fund raising" aspect and i talked him into doing it (he
has lots of experience) and agree to help him make flyers, which we spent
all friday night making (except for some of kellen's 'new job" party w/a
magician =-))  and finally finished at 6:00am, right before i read the
instant libelous message. for the record, if no one else is approved, stan
will be handling the money, not me.

for the record, i never stole any money from occupysf; please, bring
forward any evidence to the contrary, but remember mere biased opinion is
not evidence; or in the alternative, let's have a mock trial somewhere and
you can present whatever hearsay you can find and I will contest it. sound
like fun? it does to me, i would love to smash this libelous rumor more
than you would like for it to be true

in parting, i must ask you, rachyl, has anyone ever started a nasty rumor
about you that wasn't at all true? if so, how did it make you feel?

please pardon any typos, i'm tired and it's too long (apologies for that)

good day and good luck with your portable speaker mod

p.s. i have little personal beef with you too; i don't think you started
the rumor, but i know you could have.

*First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
you win*.
- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

*But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the
same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is
their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide
new Guards for their future security.*
- Declaration of Independence*
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