[Noisebridge-discuss] On Asking People To Leave (Was Re: Shawn L. )
jim at well.com
Sun Mar 10 18:49:20 UTC 2013
As a courtesy to the rest of us, those who are
discussing this issue please calm down and discuss
the issues without getting personal, please.
The issues seem to include
* using a classroom: my understanding is that the events
section of the front page of the NB wiki sufficiently
notifies everyone of a claim on a NB space or other
resource. For years this seems an honored convention
that protects classes in both Turing and Church
* how to handle cellphone calls? Myself I either use
the top of the stairs or the dirty shop, in which
noisy power tools are used (so why not phones, too).
* needing a member. My understanding is that there is no
need for members per se; in the case of conflict,
anyone can ask anyone else to help resolve a problem
(most notably actual physical violence, sexually
driven accostments, and reckless behavior (drunks and
dopers). As a matter of excellence, people should be
willing to respond to such requests for mediation.
On Sat, 2013-03-09 at 22:37 -0800, Mitchel McAllister wrote:
> >obviously Reverend Mik later asked me if I had really said to you
> >Maestro that the Reverend Mik should throw everyone out of Turing except
> * what the fuck? who the fuck is reverend mik and why is he/she saying i
> ever said this?
> * again. COLOR/SKY/WORLD
> >And after that, just FYI, people know that you don't even dial a number
> >on your phone and see you holding it to you head like you're talking to
> >someone and they just roll their eyes some more.
> * yes danny, i bring my hasbro phone to the space and play barbie
> * "people" know? who are these "people" danny?, are they there more when
> you're off your meds?
> * are they living in your beard?
> * do they have NAMES?
> I am Reverend Mik, Maestro Douche-bag. I am the person who responded to your screams of "I need a member to mediate right now", when Kev had gone into Turing to take a conference call.
> I am the person who, trained in mediation, arbitration, and peer counseling, who responded, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER TO MEDIATE.
> And as soon as I started asking what was going on, you got pissed off and ignored me. I asked you several times what your perspective was on the incident, while you ignored me and pretended to be talking to Danny and said loudly, "oh, you're on your way over? Great"
> So yes, you do go around demanding that a member be present to do your bidding, and once anyone says "No, you need to act like an adult for a change", you start screaming that there are no authorities at Noisebridge.
> As far as anyone being off their meds, I only know one person who is so off their meds that they have to go around pretending to be a bad-ass biker who has a freaking lease on the Turing room on Tuesdays from about one pm until after all the Tuesday classes are done.
> Since everybody else is too chicken to say it, I will. From my professional perspective and experience, you need to grow the fuck up, take responsibility for your own actions and the consequences thereof. Because next time I see you throwing one of your patented toddler temper tantrums in the space, I will be tossing your self-entitled ass out of the space, even if you get every member to say that it's okay if you act like a freaking four-year-old.
> I'm really getting sick of people acting like children, interrupting those of us here to actually *DO* something.
> - Reverend Mik McAllister
> Purveyor of Subversive Fiction
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