[Noisebridge-discuss] On Asking People To Leave (Was Re: Shawn L. )
gnnrok at gmail.com
Mon Mar 11 08:28:09 UTC 2013
Keep in mind you'll have to share the same space, people are rarely kicked
I'd recommend just talking this out with a moderator, or shaking hands.
I'm happy to see that both of you are working on projects, and such hope
this works out for you two.
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Andrew Byrne <andrew at pachakutech.com>wrote:
> This is why I signed up for discuss... I can only add that hacktivism
> Third Mondays are a monthly event. -dru
> On Mar 10, 2013 11:49 AM, "jim" <jim at well.com> wrote:
>> As a courtesy to the rest of us, those who are
>> discussing this issue please calm down and discuss
>> the issues without getting personal, please.
>> The issues seem to include
>> * using a classroom: my understanding is that the events
>> section of the front page of the NB wiki sufficiently
>> notifies everyone of a claim on a NB space or other
>> resource. For years this seems an honored convention
>> that protects classes in both Turing and Church
>> * how to handle cellphone calls? Myself I either use
>> the top of the stairs or the dirty shop, in which
>> noisy power tools are used (so why not phones, too).
>> * needing a member. My understanding is that there is no
>> need for members per se; in the case of conflict,
>> anyone can ask anyone else to help resolve a problem
>> (most notably actual physical violence, sexually
>> driven accostments, and reckless behavior (drunks and
>> dopers). As a matter of excellence, people should be
>> willing to respond to such requests for mediation.
>> On Sat, 2013-03-09 at 22:37 -0800, Mitchel McAllister wrote:
>> > >obviously Reverend Mik later asked me if I had really said to you
>> > >Maestro that the Reverend Mik should throw everyone out of Turing
>> > you
>> > * what the fuck? who the fuck is reverend mik and why is he/she saying i
>> > ever said this?
>> > * again. COLOR/SKY/WORLD
>> > >And after that, just FYI, people know that you don't even dial a number
>> > >on your phone and see you holding it to you head like you're talking to
>> > >someone and they just roll their eyes some more.
>> > * yes danny, i bring my hasbro phone to the space and play barbie
>> > bootycall...
>> > * "people" know? who are these "people" danny?, are they there more when
>> > you're off your meds?
>> > * are they living in your beard?
>> > * do they have NAMES?
>> > I am Reverend Mik, Maestro Douche-bag. I am the person who responded to
>> your screams of "I need a member to mediate right now", when Kev had gone
>> into Turing to take a conference call.
>> > I am the person who, trained in mediation, arbitration, and peer
>> counseling, who responded, BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A MEMBER TO MEDIATE.
>> > And as soon as I started asking what was going on, you got pissed off
>> and ignored me. I asked you several times what your perspective was on the
>> incident, while you ignored me and pretended to be talking to Danny and
>> said loudly, "oh, you're on your way over? Great"
>> > So yes, you do go around demanding that a member be present to do your
>> bidding, and once anyone says "No, you need to act like an adult for a
>> change", you start screaming that there are no authorities at Noisebridge.
>> > As far as anyone being off their meds, I only know one person who is so
>> off their meds that they have to go around pretending to be a bad-ass biker
>> who has a freaking lease on the Turing room on Tuesdays from about one pm
>> until after all the Tuesday classes are done.
>> > Since everybody else is too chicken to say it, I will. From my
>> professional perspective and experience, you need to grow the fuck up, take
>> responsibility for your own actions and the consequences thereof. Because
>> next time I see you throwing one of your patented toddler temper tantrums
>> in the space, I will be tossing your self-entitled ass out of the space,
>> even if you get every member to say that it's okay if you act like a
>> freaking four-year-old.
>> > I'm really getting sick of people acting like children, interrupting
>> those of us here to actually *DO* something.
>> > - Reverend Mik McAllister
>> > Purveyor of Subversive Fiction
>> > http://www.prismandink.com
>> > http://www.lunatextpublications.com
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