[Noisebridge-discuss] Consensus on Barring Shawn Landden from the Noisebridge space and community (Was Re: On Asking People To Leave (Was Re: Shawn L. ))
snailtsunami at gmail.com
Thu Mar 21 19:18:17 UTC 2013
Last night, we reached consensus on the decision to ban Shawn from
Noisebridge and the community, which in full wording goes, "Shawn Landden
is barred from Noisebridge. He is prohibited from entering the space or
participating in the community."
The statement is intentionally worded to so it can be interpreted to
encompass DIGITAL as well as PHYSICAL space.
You can see the meeting notes at
I am relieved to see the community band together on this decision, without
hesitation, and hope that it encourages people hurt by this person to
return and continue to be a part of our community. :) Because we do care.
And I always look forward to discussions on what we can do to do better
next time, because it will happen again, at Noisebridge, at every
hackerspace, and it will happen with people we like and are very attached
to and we need to be prepared, mentally, to make difficult decisions.
I know members of other hackerspaces like to joke about Noisebridge drama,
but this is not silly Internet drama. These are real problems that happen
in every hackerspace, every place on the planet, and we're trying to solve
a problem that is unsolved (how can you guarantee the safety of people in a
space, when that space is in a society where violence and threats against
people is accepted, even lauded, because the recipients are women?).
We talk about it openly, and I'm glad talk is open. Information is our best
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 1:01 AM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
> We are consensing on banning you from Noisebridge next week, which is
> a fairly serious step that we've only had to enact twice before.
> As in a previous case, there is a document containing ten Noisebridge
> community member's statements about your behaviour among the
> Noisebridge community. The document is being kept offline for privacy
> reasons, but can be read by anyone who wishes to contact the keepers,
> who are Alex Peake and Tom Lowenthal, both of whom are well known in
> the community.
> There was swift consensus on making the banning proposal, with no
> We went onto discuss how, as a community, we would pass the collated
> information more widely to other hacker communities.
> I speak only for myself when I say that the best thing you might
> consider doing right now is returning back to Washington where you
> have an outstanding warrant for your arrest in the matter of violating
> probation, felony stalking, violating a restraining order, harassment,
> and stalking.
> I do speak for a large proportion of the Noisebridge community who
> have made it clear that they wish to communicate as widely as possible
> what we know about your current state, and to warn others who you
> might harass. We are already reaching out individually to hackerspaces
> in our area, and will be relaying the news to Portland.
> We also spoke about how we might better react more quickly, and listen
> more swiftly to those who were concerned about your behaviour earlier.
> Shawn, I don't think I can say this any more explicitly than this in
> public: we at Noisebridge are extremely concerned by your behavior,
> and worried for your mental health. Please return home and seek care.
> You have been banned from several houses in our city, you are about to
> be banned from Noisebridge, and we are about to make even more public
> our concerns. You have been told all of these things repeatedly by
> individuals, groups of housemates, and law enforcement, and have made
> no change in your behaviour. Please change it now.
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Shawn <shawnlandden at gmail.com> wrote:
>> To be terse here, I am currently not in San Francisco, but in Portland.
>> Consequentially, I can neither be at Noisebridge while unwanted, (by
>> nor attend meetings.
>> Shawn Landden
>> +1 360 389 3001 (SMS preferred)
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