[Noisebridge-discuss] To the @#$er that broke into my member shelf...

Chris Murphy chrisnoisebridge at gmail.com
Thu Mar 21 20:27:59 UTC 2013


To clarify, my sentence about B players was joke. I was accepting responsibility for the downward spiral. The rest of my e-mail was serious. Let's focus on what societal issues are afflicting the space and then attempt to fix society rather than becoming increasingly elitist.

 If I wanted my own private hackerspace where all the tools are in perfect working order, I would just stay at home. Noisebridge is about the people. We need to keep the doors open even if it means the Grinches among us take every last lightbulb. I know they're there and this has been happening at least since Occupy. 

Locking the doors won't make us happier, more interesting, or even immune to the very problems we see today. These are society problems hitting us hard. I don't think we would have them in some other parts of the world. For example, I read in a travel guide that if you steal in Denmark, you are sent to the doctor not to prison because you must be mentally ill. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 21, 2013, at 12:50, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Chris,
> 
> I dunno about "B players", but I do agree that perhaps the reason that
> Noisebridge has started to feel unwieldy is that it's become a go-to
> for way too many purposes.
> 
> I'd be very into both discussing the "purpose" of Noisebridge and
> seeing whether there's a sense of clarity to be reached there,
> especially in terms of still fulfilling the values of radical
> inclusiveness, diversity, and openness.
> 
> One question I'd like to explore is whether NB should "think of
> itself" as a community, or as a space.
> 
> That discussion may seem purely pedantic, but it comes with cultural
> consequences.
> 
> If you look at the course of human history, as human societies grow to
> the point where each individual can no longer "keep track of" all of
> the other individuals in that group, and in situations where those
> individuals feel attachment to a particular point of geography,
> traditionally, this is when skirmishes and wars start to erupt.
> 
> We are already fighting an ongoing cultural battle at NB over two
> different concepts of property (private vs collectivist).
> 
> I would suggest that the issue of Property will only become worse over
> time as two different expectational standards vie for cultural control
> of the same physical space.
> 
> --Naomi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Chris Murphy
> <chrisnoisebridge at gmail.com> wrote:
>> +1 on the YouTube link.
>> 
>> Ever since I arrived, Noisebridge has become overrun with B players.  Sorry guys :-)
>> 
>> One route would be to close our doors and harden our walls. Another route would be to improve the society around us so that we don't have to shut ourselves off from the community.
>> 
>> I suggest we spin off an organization(s) that aim to fix the societal problems that afflict Noisebridge. These organizations would ask the 'five whys' and then attempt to change society as a whole with a long term view.
>> 
>> For example:
>> Provide free nursery schools.
>> Effective free drug education.
>> A 'Boy Scouts' that is tolerant, inclusive, unreligious, and coed.
>> Your ideas here...
>> 
>> 
>> PS. The 'five whys' are a tenet of Lean production and root cause analysis. There is plenty of info about it online.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 21, 2013, at 4:17, "Robert \"Finny\" Merrill" <rfmerrill at berkeley.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JBQPCHHK0Q
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