[Noisebridge-discuss] Secure video recording apps (WAS: door "security": culture, not policy.)

Sai noisebridge at saizai.com
Sat Mar 23 05:24:50 UTC 2013


I don't. I was simply reminded of something that I happen to want.
This thread has nothing to do with Noisebridge; I thought that was
clear from my saying "iPhone or Android" at the top. :-/

Think e.g. being able to record cops (or TSA, or …) without them being
able to easily stop, delete, or review the footage if they seize your
camera.*

- Sai

* Of course, such actions would be, according to the Department of
Justice, in violation of law so clearly established that they would
have no entitlement to qualified immunity, and they would thus be
liable to a §1983 / Bivens suit. But that's a lot easier to prove if
you don't let them destroy the evidence in the first place.

http://images.politico.com/global/2013/03/08/garcia_doj_soi_03-04-13.pdf


On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Dean Mao <dean.mao at hackerdojo.com> wrote:
> Hm, I thought this was for recording the front & back door?  Why would you
> want an iphone sitting outside as a security camera?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Sai <noisebridge at saizai.com> wrote:
>>
>> Er… how is ffserver/ffmpeg an iPhone or Android app?
>>
>> - Sai
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Dean Mao <dean.mao at hackerdojo.com>
>> wrote:
>> > One can configure ffserver/ffmpeg to record in a ring buffer.  The
>> > length of
>> > recording time is determined by the size of the ring buffer.  This way
>> > it
>> > never really uses up infinite storage and one can download the file for
>> > viewing purposes.  Assuming you have it stored on a computer with
>> > limited
>> > access, it would probably cover most of those requirements.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:31 PM, Sai <noisebridge at saizai.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> That reminds me of something.
>> >>
>> >> What iPhone or Android software would (* mandatory):
>> >> 1. * Record video
>> >> 2. * Not allow viewing or deleting footage without a password
>> >> 3. Not allow stopping a recording once started without a password
>> >> 4. Work when the phone is otherwise locked
>> >> 5. Upload video as it's being recorded
>> >> 6. Record front & back video simultaneously
>> >>
>> >> iPhone 5's Camera app, when accessed from the lock screen, does 1, 2 &
>> >> 4 (though it requires the display to be constantly on while recording,
>> >> which is undesirable as a battery drain).
>> >>
>> >> I don't know anything else that does what I want. Qik and Ustream both
>> >> fail point 2. :-(
>> >>
>> >> Anyone know better solutions?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> - Sai
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Gopiballava Flaherty
>> >> <gopiballava at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Mar 22, 2013, at 20:58, Garrett Mace <garrettmace at gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Video surveillance in the space.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > How about something that caches a certain duration of video, and
>> >> > deletes
>> >> > it
>> >> > unless somebody presses the "something got stolen" button? That's
>> >> > sort
>> >> > of
>> >> > what happened to Steve Mann. His wearable's auto erase functionality
>> >> > was
>> >> > disabled due to some issues when he was assaulted:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > http://m.nbcnews.com/technology/technolog/cyborg-steve-mann-details-alleged-mcdonalds-assault-889595
>> >> >
>> >> > (Apparently not the first time - he got hit by a car in a hit and
>> >> > run,
>> >> > and
>> >> > the car damaged his wearable when it knocked him over...)
>> >> >
>> >> > Could also set up some sort of cryptographic system that only
>> >> > specific
>> >> > people could use to access the video, including automatic posting on
>> >> > the
>> >> > mailing list that video of a specific timeframe was going to be
>> >> > viewed.
>> >> > Extract images of the perpetrator, publish those, and destroy the
>> >> > video.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> >
>> >> > gopi at iPad
>> >> >
>> >> >
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>> > --
>> > Dean Mao
>> > dean.mao at hackerdojo.com
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