[Noisebridge-discuss] anti-anonymity proposals

Darius Garza 313kid at gmail.com
Fri Nov 15 21:18:44 UTC 2013


> I strongly encourage anyone with a sense of WTF to come to a meeting and
> resurrect Leif's proposal to revoke all member only consenssies. Two folks
> two meetings prior did just this but their proposal was blocked. Something
> similar but different could be brought back at some point.

>I also strongly encourage people to do this, and to perhaps suggest
alternate
>ideas which could achieve some of the well-meaning goals of the misguided
>selectively-enforced-members-only policy...

The members only policy has broken my heart and I've been struggling with a
sense of frustration and hopelessness about changing things.

I'm not a member, nor an "associate member" but I will be present at the
next meeting to support Leif's proposal to revoke the member's only policy
that has stripped us of the culture that I once loved.

d.


On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd at gmail.com>wrote:

> On 15 November 2013 11:43, Leif Ryge <leif at synthesize.us> wrote:
>
> > If the members of Noisebridge insist on making policies I implore them
> to make
> > policies which are more MAY and SHOULD than MUST and SHALL.
>
> I've implemented internet protocols like this. It turns out people can
> and do ignore MAY/SHOULD when it suits them / when they're lazy.
>
> That only works when everyone involved are actively working to better
> the community as a whole. It doesn't work if everyone is acting in
> (mostly non-enlightened) self-interest. Principles, whilst admirable,
> need to be backed up with constant work. I see lots of principles..
> then I saw a dirty kitchen, people being abusive at meetings and
> people feeling unsafe in the space.
>
> It turns out ideals and principles aren't enough.
>
>
>
>
> -adrian
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