[Noisebridge-discuss] anti-anonymity proposals
danny at spesh.com
Fri Nov 15 23:42:06 UTC 2013
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Snail <snailtsunami at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:13 AM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
>> As to females being harassed, for cases of
>> crude coppings of feels, I dislike taht female
>> turning to the community for support; I would
>> eagerly defend any female who hauled off and
>> slugged whoever copped a feel or to go get some
>> friends and return to verbally educate the
>> offender: it's dis-empowering to perceive one's
>> self as a victim and turn to a community for
>> support for what is an individual incident.
On the planet I live on, my friends *are* my community, and violence
of any kind within that community is unacceptable to me. The whole
*point* is to be able to turn to the community as a whole, so that
people who are otherwise diminished in power can expect the support of
Christ, Jim, what the hell *is* this?
> Whoa - whoa whoa whoa - whoaaaaa...
> Time out - did you really just say that women who get groped ("cases of
> crude coppings of feels") should not ask the community to help them out? And
> you believe that it's disempowering somehow??
> And that people should just punch people or deal with it on their own? Is
> this really what you're suggesting?
>> There will be no way fully to suppress such
>> actions taken by horney and inconsiderate
>> personages, policies and rules and committee
>> resolutions aside (far, far aside, I hope).
> I can't even. Here's a good way to suppress the actions of "horney" or
> inconsiderate people: never let them back in Noisebridge because that's a
> terrible excuse for their actions!
>> Please ask yourself if you are prone to
>> express yourself when you believe you have the
>> "high ground" and can properly scold others. I.e.,
>> are you living too much with anger?
> With the rage of a thousand burning stars.
> TO EVERYONE ELSE READING THIS - There are lots of people in the community at
> large who will help you out if someone is creeping on you or worse, whether
> you are "taht females" or just a plain ol' human being! Don't let what Jim
> says dissuade you from reporting harassment or assault or pointing out
> creepers! This is not an opinion everyone here carries. Please don't ever
> feel like it's your fault or that you're required to punch people - it's a
> valid and rational response to remove yourself from a dangerous situation
> and try to sort things out later from a safe place rather than confront your
> harasser/assaulter. If someone is creeping on you, they are pretty much
> always creeping on OTHERS, too, so you are not alone or stuck in some
> isolated personal incident! And as a community we can try to make
> Noisebridge a safer place for everyone.
> Also, women really appreciate being called women and not "females". Do you
> go around saying "the males" when referring to men? Probably not.
> Angry forever,
> ............. _ at y
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