[Noisebridge-discuss] anti-anonymity proposals

Leif Ryge leif at synthesize.us
Sat Nov 16 00:13:38 UTC 2013


+1 +9000

wtf, jim?!

~leif

On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 02:29:15PM -0800, Snail wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:13 AM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
> 
> >     As to females being harassed, for cases of
> > crude coppings of feels, I dislike taht female
> > turning to the community for support; I would
> > eagerly defend any female who hauled off and
> > slugged whoever copped a feel or to go get some
> > friends and return to verbally educate the
> > offender: it's dis-empowering to perceive one's
> > self as a victim and turn to a community for
> > support for what is an individual incident.
> >
> 
> Whoa - whoa whoa whoa - whoaaaaa...
> 
> Time out - did you really just say that women who get groped ("cases of
> crude coppings of feels") should not ask the community to help them out?
> And you believe that it's disempowering somehow??
> 
> And that people should just punch people or deal with it on their own? Is
> this really what you're suggesting?
> 
> 
> >     There will be no way fully to suppress such
> > actions taken by horney and inconsiderate
> > personages, policies and rules and committee
> > resolutions aside (far, far aside, I hope).
> >
> >
> I can't even. Here's a good way to suppress the actions of "horney" or
> inconsiderate people: never let them back in Noisebridge because that's a
> terrible excuse for their actions!
> 
> 
> 
> >     Please ask yourself if you are prone to
> > express yourself when you believe you have the
> > "high ground" and can properly scold others. I.e.,
> > are you living too much with anger?
> >
> 
> With the rage of a thousand burning stars.
> 
> 
> TO EVERYONE ELSE READING THIS - There are lots of people in the community
> at large who will help you out if someone is creeping on you or worse,
> whether you are "taht females" or just a plain ol' human being! Don't let
> what Jim says dissuade you from reporting harassment or assault or pointing
> out creepers! This is not an opinion everyone here carries. Please don't
> ever feel like it's your fault or that you're required to punch people -
> it's a valid and rational response to remove yourself from a dangerous
> situation and try to sort things out later from a safe place rather than
> confront your harasser/assaulter. If someone is creeping on you, they are
> pretty much always creeping on OTHERS, too, so you are not alone or stuck
> in some isolated personal incident! And as a community we can try to make
> Noisebridge a safer place for everyone.
> 
> Also, women really appreciate being called women and not "females". Do you
> go around saying "the males" when referring to men? Probably not.
> 
> Angry forever,
> Snail
> 
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