[Noisebridge-discuss] FWD: anti-jim and anti-anons2.0

Danny O'Brien danny at spesh.com
Mon Nov 18 05:12:02 UTC 2013


On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Nov 17, 2013 8:52 PM, "Hannah Grimm" <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hey, here's an idea: maybe if you say something, and suddenly everyone
>> starts yelling at you, it is because you are wrong and your ideas are
>> actively harmful to others.
>>
>

Um, what? I think this is one of the few occasions I've seen in
hackerdom where it's Jim's POV that's been roundly criticized, not
what everyone else is said. And a few people chiming in on a thread
aren't "everybody", not by a long chalk.

I'm also really not okay with the concept of ideas being deigned
"actively harmful". Jim can say what he wants. His dumber ideas aren't
going to physically set anybody on fire here.

I hope you were trying to say something else here.

d.


> Not true, as a general rule. See: all of the social change in the last 200
> years.
>
> Don't start down the path of righteousness through numbers.
>
> Adrian
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 6:44 PM, jim <jim at systemateka.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Poor defenseless jim has learned a fair
>>> amount from this s-storm, and for that I'm
>>> glad, if somewhat exhausted. I certainly
>>> made some bad mistakes.
>>>     "shitlist du jour" may fill a regular
>>> need for a scapegoat.
>>>     One alarming revelation is about the
>>> hostility some females bear toward males.
>>> Males certainly bear blame and shame, but
>>> how to reconcile to trust and well-being?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 2013-11-17 at 17:29 -0800, Dayton Grant wrote:
>>> > just Fwd'ing this from someone who insists on remaining anonymous:
>>> >
>>> > starting line
>>> > > > can keep doing YOUR OWN sorry ass fucking trolling
>>> > > > bullshit, not ME!! And you can bet YOUR sweet ass
>>> > > > that I'm not hanging MY neck out with comments &
>>> > > > trapped answers or giving out MY Xname just so I get
>>> > > > targeted for public condemnation just like jim
>>> > > > still is (i.e., the group's shitlist du jour!!)
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Here's my tally of those definitely ganging up in 1
>>> > > > form or another against poor, defenseless jim for
>>> > > > his comments & opinions, as of sun morning
>>> > > > - Ceren Ercen
>>> > > > - Snail
>>> > > > - rachel lyra hospodar
>>> > > > - Danny O'Brien
>>> > > > - Leif Ryge
>>> > > > - Hannah Grimm
>>> > > > - Rachel McConnell
>>> > > > - Tom Lowenthal
>>> > > > - Liz Henry
>>> > > > ...
>>> > > > I count jim getting outnumbered 9+:1
>>> > > >
>>> > > > jim shoulda quit while mayB he was ahead;
>>> > > > 'pologies sure not gonna help at this pt
>>> > > > I mean like maybe they'll try BANNING jim for his
>>> > > > opinions during their next meeting or what??
>>> > > > WTF with this shit???!!!
>>> > > > Next up R other wannabes ready2join the anti-jim gang....
>>> > finishline
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