[Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: [discuss] Further thoughts/feedback about How to Make Almost Anything
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Fri Oct 18 00:28:49 UTC 2013
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From: Gui Cavalcanti <gui at artisansasylum.com>
To: "discuss at artisansasylum.com" <discuss at artisansasylum.com>
Subject: [discuss] Further thoughts/feedback about How to Make Almost
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 13:06:52 -0400
Thanks to everyone who replied! So far it's looking like, between
private emails and list emails, there are about 8 people who want
weekdays, and 6 or 7 who want nights and weekends. That, plus a lot of
encouraging individual emails, seems like a fairly robust reply, so I'll
be pursuing the course planning further.
I'd like to continue to pick your brains if you're willing, and
fine-tune this into something that's offerable. Check out my thoughts on
your responses so far below, and some questions I'd like to pose to you
guys at the end.
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**How long would it be, and how much would it cost?
**I've done the math and some of the broad strokes of class planning.
Right now it's looking like somewhere between $1,500 and $1,800,
depending on the materials cost of the class and how much individual
tooling is purchased by the Asylum and how much is purchased by the
student. This would be for a 3 month class that meets twice a week for 3
hours. The class would spend 2 weeks (4 sessions) in the machining,
welding, woodworking, and electronics shops, as well as 2 weeks learning
CAD at the beginning (with refreshers throughout) and 2 weeks working
with CNC machines (including the plasma cutter, 3D printer, and Sharp
CNC mill at a minimum). There'd likely be some schedule fluctuation as
some things take more time and others take less, but that's about the
shape of it.
There should be both a nights and weekends offering, as well as a
*I was thinking a little bit more about how to offer a nights/weekends
class. What would you guys think of class that met Friday night and then
a weekend day? Since the class has to move around various shops, it'd be
very difficult to schedule it for a Monday-Thursday slot in the regular
Asylum schedule, but Fridays are always free.
As to the weekday offerings, what time would be best, assuming the class
was 3 hours long? I'm leaning towards mornings around 10ish, which gives
time to break for lunch and still have the rest of the day.
*Can there be a way to pay-as-you-go, catch up on classes, or miss
classes I already know about?
*Some of my classes (notably, Intro to Hydraulics and Pneumatics) have
been deliberately split up into independent sections before, so I don't
see why that model couldn't work here. Would it be more appealing to
have the option to pay per class type? Would it be helpful to have
monthly billing for the class, instead of a lump payment?
*Would multiple instructors be involved?*
This one's a tough one. Multi-instructor classes are difficult to pull
off, given scheduling constraints and the difficulty of team teaching to
one consistent syllabus. I could easily imagine working with a
woodworking instructor (since I can teach framing-grade woodworking, but
not fine woodworking) and an electronics instructor, but it's something
I'd want to think carefully about.
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Now, my questions to you all:
* How important is building a cohesive, completed thing (as opposed to
practicing on scraps, and the like)? I can think of a couple of
projects that include components of all of those shops (namely, a
pretty intense workbench with vises and the like built into it), but
I don't know if that would have universal appeal to people who might
otherwise want to take the class and not bother building a completed
* In my head, the course focuses on the shops that mesh well together
with CAD/CAM to produce multi-disciplinary, engineered structures
and projects. This likely means that silkscreening, fabric, jewelry,
glass, and bike repair would probably not be included. Is that OK,
or should I be working to expand the offerings?
* If the class is multi-month, there's a possibility
* I'm guessing the ideal number of students would be somewhere between
3 and 5 per session - that's about the same size as machining and
welding classes. It's a bit more than the standard tool training
session, but less than big classes like Build a Chair and
Metalworking Intensive. Does that sound about right, for those of
you who have recently taken such classes?
Thanks for the feedback, everyone!
Gui Cavalcanti, Founder
Artisan's Asylum, Inc.
Cell: (857) 366-9599 (NEW)
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