[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge is now Members and their Guests only, 24/7 please read and learn about it

Jake jake at spaz.org
Thu Oct 31 01:19:02 UTC 2013


The front page of the website is a wiki.  You can edit it if you think it 
needs to change.  When did you stop being a hacker?

This policy hasn't been in effect a full day yet, and yet you're full of 
criticism for it with ZERO constructive suggestions.  [insert joke about 
constructing bunk beds here]

as for killing the goose that lays the golden eggs, apparently more people 
believe that to be true about people who refused for so long to do 
anything about the downhill slide that noisebridge has been in for a long 
time.  Geese can die from lack of care you know.

As for being surprised that members passed this, another way to word it is 
that after weeks of discussion about this issue, all of the members who 
decided to show up agreed that it needed to be done.

problems are not solved by blocking or criticising efforts.  Problems are 
solved by making changes until things work better.

As for noisebridge's public image, I empower you to publicize the subtle 
concept that the general public is welcome to stop by and that they will 
almost certainly be invited in and given a proper introduction and tour, 
and that we are eager to see them.

While you're at it please tell them that we are working hard to replace 
our current perception by the public as a place you would never WANT to go 
with one where you WILL want to go and hack.  And if you refuse to 
recognize the reality that the golden eggs don't WANT to go to noisebridge 
because of its radical inclusivity, you're ignoring a lot of people's 
opinions.

-jake

On Wed, 30 Oct 2013, Leif Ryge wrote:

> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:41:14AM -0700, Jake wrote:
>> in every practical way nothing has changed at all.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Noisebridge continues to be open to the public 24/7 just as it always was.
>
> Do you actually believe those two statements? I almost expect you to say "not
> wittingly" next!
>
> The front page of the website now says "Noisebridge is open 24/7 to Members,
> Associate Members and guests thereof".
>
> It seems pretty obvious that people who don't know anyone there would, upon
> reading that, get the impression that they can't just drop in. I think most
> people (by a large margin) who have done awesome stuff at Noisebridge didn't
> know anyone physically present the first times they visited the space. So, I
> think this policy will have a significant negative impact.
>
> As I've said before, I think you're killing the goose that lays golden eggs.
>
> I am especially disappointed that this extremely drastic change was 
> adopted at a meeting with only four members present. I hope the 
> membership of Noisebridge will reconsider this.
>
> ~leif
>


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