[Noisebridge-discuss] Just what is "Hacking".

jim jim at well.com
Tue Sep 3 16:39:53 UTC 2013



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On Tue, 2013-09-03 at 15:42 +0000, Nicholas LoCicero wrote:
> Hacking is a creative activity.
> 
> On Sep 2, 2013 6:04 PM, "jim" <jim at well.com> wrote:
>         
>             The 1985 hacker's convention agreed that the term
>         "hacker" does not apply to (4.) the "cracker" who
>         breaks into systems. These were all computer-oriented
>         folks.
>         
>             The planning meetings before NB had any spaces
>         included more disciplines than just those that are
>         computer-oriented, such as electronics (the most
>         common) as well as various crafts and arts.
>             The intention of founding was to include a wide
>         variety of people. I was there. The sense of greater
>         inclusion was, and among some of us still here is,
>         part of the purpose and benefit.
>         
>             The first NB space (83c weisse) included a cooking
>         area so people could fix something to eat while they
>         were in the space.
>             When we moved into 2169 Mission, we set up a
>         kitchen facility for people to cook meals. After that
>         was set up, people began to do hacking with foods and
>         other bio stuff.
>         
>             We have had repeated strife caused by computer-
>         only mentalities trying to define NB as a computer
>         hacker-only space and trying to ban people who did
>         not fit their narrow and narrow-minded concepts. Such
>         machinations create an obnoxious atmosphere.
>         
>             Nobody should be stealing or sleeping in the space
>         because that's not excellent to others. That is the
>         only policy or rule for NB founding. Those who are
>         helping to defeat stealing and sleeping and fisticuffs
>         are doing the right thing and deserve support, but not
>         to the point of narrowing the criteria for inclusion.
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 16:07 -0700, Norman Bradley wrote:
>         > Feel free to call me a curmudgeon. I’ve been called that
>         before.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > Although my bachelors degree is in Math/Computer Science I
>         have always
>         > felt that language should express ideas accurately. So I can
>         state
>         > definitively that there is no such thing as a Sleep Hacker.
>         Also the
>         > use of the word Hacker for things like, Food/Cooking,
>         Sewing, and
>         > Music, should only be used if those involved are doing
>         something
>         > completely new to them. Cooking dinner just doesn’t count.
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > To quote the Merriam Webster online dictionary a Hacker is:
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > 3: an expert at programming and solving problems with a
>         computer
>         >
>         > 4: a person who illegally gains access to and sometimes
>         tampers with
>         > information in a computer system
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > Number 1 refers to chopping things up and number 2 refers to
>         someone
>         > who is unskilled or inexperienced. So unless you are
>         inexperienced or
>         > unskilled at sleep (or you are chopping it up) you aren’t
>         hacking
>         > anything and you are putting the lease in danger.
>         >
>         > --
>         > You are entitled to your own opinion.
>         > You are NOT entitled to your own facts.
>         >
>         > Norman
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