[Noisebridge-discuss] Cooking in the space

Ceren Ercen ceren at ercen.com
Tue Apr 1 19:06:08 UTC 2014

Or, you jellospines could KICK THEM OUT, and not cut off your noses to
spite your face, oh my god! Haven't you had enough comedically avoidant
situations without this becoming another punchline?

Tell them Noisebridge is not an all purpose community space. Tell them they
are a crowd of leeches, but without the historical woo-medical benefits. Be
prepare for them to delay and string you along with bullshit promises to do
better, making it awkward to say no. Tell them to fuck off and try their
participatory approach in 6 months.

They've been punted out of far more assertive, self aware spaces than
Noisebridge - this sort of group is well armed with delay and deflect
skills. Easier to as forgiveness than permission? Ha, they don't even have
to ask forgiveness from you, suckers.

(when I come back from New York City, I'm gonna bring a whole bunch more
attitude and make even fewer friends, wow...)

On Apr 1, 2014 9:11 AM, "Will Sargent" <will.sargent at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm for the idea.  Disconnecting the stove is something that's been done
in the past, and it's worked well.
> Will.
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Gregory Dillon <gregorydillon at gmail.com>
>> Tonight was definitely an example when the kitchen usage was an extreme
>> I was in Jeffrey's class tonight, and like he said,  the burnt food
smoke and stink was so strong that my eyes were watery.  I felt like a
headache coming on and it made it difficult to pay attention in class.
>> I'm sure a lot of work went into building the kitchen, and so I do feel
it would be a shame to pull it out.    Maybe for a month or two the stove
could be disconnected and the lightweight kitchen items  be removed, and
only returned if the entire space can be stabilized.
>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <
jeffreyatw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I don't believe Noisebridge needs a kitchen for that reason.
>>> People are messy and leave pots, pans, glasses, silverware, etc. all
over the place. If, like many offices that have kitchens, it was
professionally regularly cleaned, then maybe it would better serve people
who are "hackers" (an impossible distinction to make). It's one thing for
well-meaning people to use the kitchen and go back to doing what they were
doing, it's another to get them to reliably clean it when done.
>>> In the kitchen's current state, it only seems to be used by and for
people who otherwise don't have access to kitchens for non-hacking
purposes. I do not believe this benefits or furthers the cause of the space
at all.
>>> Bring back the oyster mushroom shelves. Let's pickle some stuff that
shouldn't be pickled. Skittle vodka. But since no one is jumping on some
real opportunities, I think the space could be better used for
non-food-related tools and projects.
>>> P.S. I taught my class around the corner from the kitchen this evening
and someone burned the fuck out of
>>> some meat. It was smoky and smelled horrible. My students were visibly
>>> Jeffrey
>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:31 PM, spinach williams <
spinach.williams at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mar 31, 2014 8:21 PM, "Al Sweigart" <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >the kitchen is sole cause of the huge rodent problem at Noisebridge,
I don't see why Noisebridge continues to have a full kitchen with stove.
(Actually, yes I do. Because consensus prevents any attempt to remove or
regulate it.
>>>> could be some folks like having a kitchen? folks dig cooking for
themselves to fuel their all day hacking rather than spending cash on
prepared meals? usually when i go, it's hackers using the kitchen, when
taking a needed break from their projects. why so eager to take away
people's say in the space, anyway?
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