[Noisebridge-discuss] Cooking in the space

Jeffrey Carl Faden jeffreyatw at gmail.com
Tue Apr 1 19:14:47 UTC 2014


I'm looking for something a little more lasting than kicking them out. They'll come back. It will be slightly harder to reconnect the stove and rearrange the shelves (and bring in a new fridge).


I'm only at the space two days a week. I don't have enough of a "spine" to police the space any more than when I'm there.




But any suggestion on how to get other NB regulars to grow a spine is highly appreciated.
Jeffrey

On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Ceren Ercen <ceren at ercen.com> wrote:

> Or, you jellospines could KICK THEM OUT, and not cut off your noses to
> spite your face, oh my god! Haven't you had enough comedically avoidant
> situations without this becoming another punchline?
> Tell them Noisebridge is not an all purpose community space. Tell them they
> are a crowd of leeches, but without the historical woo-medical benefits. Be
> prepare for them to delay and string you along with bullshit promises to do
> better, making it awkward to say no. Tell them to fuck off and try their
> participatory approach in 6 months.
> They've been punted out of far more assertive, self aware spaces than
> Noisebridge - this sort of group is well armed with delay and deflect
> skills. Easier to as forgiveness than permission? Ha, they don't even have
> to ask forgiveness from you, suckers.
> (when I come back from New York City, I'm gonna bring a whole bunch more
> attitude and make even fewer friends, wow...)
> On Apr 1, 2014 9:11 AM, "Will Sargent" <will.sargent at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm for the idea.  Disconnecting the stove is something that's been done
> in the past, and it's worked well.
>>
>> Will.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Gregory Dillon <gregorydillon at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>> Tonight was definitely an example when the kitchen usage was an extreme
> problem.
>>>
>>> I was in Jeffrey's class tonight, and like he said,  the burnt food
> smoke and stink was so strong that my eyes were watery.  I felt like a
> headache coming on and it made it difficult to pay attention in class.
>>>
>>> I'm sure a lot of work went into building the kitchen, and so I do feel
> it would be a shame to pull it out.    Maybe for a month or two the stove
> could be disconnected and the lightweight kitchen items  be removed, and
> only returned if the entire space can be stabilized.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 11:21 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <
> jeffreyatw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't believe Noisebridge needs a kitchen for that reason.
>>>>
>>>> People are messy and leave pots, pans, glasses, silverware, etc. all
> over the place. If, like many offices that have kitchens, it was
> professionally regularly cleaned, then maybe it would better serve people
> who are "hackers" (an impossible distinction to make). It's one thing for
> well-meaning people to use the kitchen and go back to doing what they were
> doing, it's another to get them to reliably clean it when done.
>>>>
>>>> In the kitchen's current state, it only seems to be used by and for
> people who otherwise don't have access to kitchens for non-hacking
> purposes. I do not believe this benefits or furthers the cause of the space
> at all.
>>>>
>>>> Bring back the oyster mushroom shelves. Let's pickle some stuff that
> shouldn't be pickled. Skittle vodka. But since no one is jumping on some
> real opportunities, I think the space could be better used for
> non-food-related tools and projects.
>>>>
>>>> P.S. I taught my class around the corner from the kitchen this evening
> and someone burned the fuck out of
>>>> some meat. It was smoky and smelled horrible. My students were visibly
> uncomfortable.
>>>> Jeffrey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:31 PM, spinach williams <
> spinach.williams at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 31, 2014 8:21 PM, "Al Sweigart" <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >the kitchen is sole cause of the huge rodent problem at Noisebridge,
> I don't see why Noisebridge continues to have a full kitchen with stove.
> (Actually, yes I do. Because consensus prevents any attempt to remove or
> regulate it.
>>>>> could be some folks like having a kitchen? folks dig cooking for
> themselves to fuel their all day hacking rather than spending cash on
> prepared meals? usually when i go, it's hackers using the kitchen, when
> taking a needed break from their projects. why so eager to take away
> people's say in the space, anyway?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>> --
>>> Let's stay in touch.  Greg
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