[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge Bylaws

Naomi Most pnaomi at gmail.com
Tue Apr 8 01:17:13 UTC 2014


In my reply, I gave you a chance to see me as a reasonable person,
because I see you as a theoretically reasonable person.  And I still
don't see how my reply leaves any "wiggle room" whatsoever.

But, you don't trust me.  Fine.  Nice board we got here.

My answer to your question is, "Yes, I agree that the NB bylaws can't
be ignored."

On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:24 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
> You changed the subject away from "I believe we can/can't ignore the bylaws"
> to how you feel about changing the bylaws.
>
> No, seriously. This isn't some grand evil scheme or trick. I just want to
> know that the next time the board votes 4 to 1 against you that you won't
> pull a "well, this board vote doesn't count because I block" even though the
> bylaws say board decisions are made by majority vote.
>
> Prediction: You're next email won't answer this question either.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is no "yes or no" question implied here:
>>
>> > So, I'm of the mindset that the Noisebridge bylaws are not suggestions,
>> > but rules that cannot be ignored or are somehow optional. Anyone else like
>> > to make a public record if they feel the same way or the opposite?
>>
>> You were asking if people "feel the same way or the opposite".  I replied:
>>
>> > "I am not for changing the bylaws, at all.  Don't see any need to."
>>
>> How does this leave wiggle room?
>>
>> Whatever.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Nah, it's just that it's a really simple question but your lengthy
>> > answer
>> > didn't give a straight yes or no. And the other times I've asked you've
>> > also
>> > dodged it. Even your current answer of "Did I ever imply otherwise?"
>> > leaves
>> > wiggle room for you to later say, "I never said we had to follow the
>> > bylaws."
>> >
>> > Mostly I worry that you make up your own rules for whatever is
>> > convenient.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:51 AM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Did I ever imply otherwise?
>> >>
>> >> You're clearly setting up for something I fear won't pan out for you
>> >> the way you're hoping...
>> >>
>> >> --Naomi
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > So Naomi, does that mean you agree that the Noisebridge bylaws can't
>> >> > be
>> >> > ignored?
>> >> >
>> >> > On Apr 6, 2014 6:15 PM, "Naomi Gmail" <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Good constructive question.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If we can't agree on the bylaws as a firm basis, then we have no
>> >> >> foundation at all, and nothing we do in writing or at meetings will
>> >> >> help to
>> >> >> bring this disparate community together.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am not for changing the bylaws, at all.  Don't see any need to.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Of possible relevance:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In proposing a rewrite -- or better stated, a "renewal"-- of a
>> >> >> Mission
>> >> >> Statement, it wasn't my intention to imply a rewrite to the bylaws.
>> >> >> Only a
>> >> >> rewriting (or not!) of what appears on the wiki as the explanation
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> what
>> >> >> Noisebridge "does" and why, and more importantly, a process of
>> >> >> coming
>> >> >> to the
>> >> >> agreement that helps the community understand itself better.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --Naomi
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Apr 6, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So, I'm of the mindset that the Noisebridge bylaws are not
>> >> >> > suggestions,
>> >> >> > but rules that cannot be ignored or are somehow optional. Anyone
>> >> >> > else
>> >> >> > like
>> >> >> > to make a public record if they feel the same way or the opposite?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -Al
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
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>> >>
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>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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>>
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