[Noisebridge-discuss] asked Matthew P. to leave

Naomi Most pnaomi at gmail.com
Wed Apr 9 20:03:05 UTC 2014


You're right, it was a totally creepy move.   There was murmuring that
"he's just tired", but lack of sleep just makes you less inhibited,
and it's telling that he did that while I was sort of giving him an
authority-voice.  I don't think he has much respect for women.

He's not a member, he's just a guy who managed to hang out there for 5
or 6 days straight (he didn't have his story quite straight on the
number of days) without sleeping, working on some project.   It's
going to be hard to enforce a permanent ban on a guy whose name I
couldn't quite remember (something Russian starting with P).

So, I wrote this to warn the community.    He has light brown/blonde,
curly hair.  Very young looking.  Was wearing a tucked-in shirt into
high-waisted blue jeans when he was at NB.

--Naomi



On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ditto.  That is not right.
>
> On Apr 9, 2014 8:40 AM, "Hannah Grimm" <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Naomi,
>> That sounds awful; it doesn't matter whether we've explained to him our
>> community standards, looking up women's skirts without their permission is
>> not acceptable behavior anywhere, and someone who would treat you with that
>> amount of disrespect does not deserve to be a part of this community.  If
>> you choose to ask for a permanent ban, I'm behind you 100%.
>>
>> Hannah
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I had to ask a young Russian fellow to leave this evening at roughly
>>> 11:15pm.  He left without complaint.  The full story follows:
>>>
>>> In a random conversation after the meeting, at which this guy had been
>>> obviously distracted and seemingly drunk, he professed to have been at
>>> Noisebridge for 5 or 6 days straight, 24 hours a day.
>>>
>>> I said "that's not cool".  He replied, "it IS cool."   A lot more of
>>> that kind of dialog took place, and Josh (the tall Josh with the
>>> guitar) came into the conversation.
>>>
>>> It turned out this was also his first time at Noisebridge.  We gave
>>> him the benefit of the doubt, that no one had yet schooled him on what
>>> we consider Excellent behavior.
>>>
>>> However, his behavior was, as several put it, "creepy" and "erratic".
>>> His eyes were bugged out and he couldn't seem to control his facial
>>> expressions.  He repeatedly told Josh, "I'm not even listening to what
>>> you're saying", as if that was an acceptable conversational tool.
>>>
>>> The breaking point for me was when, in the middle of my offering him a
>>> "deal", he looked up my skirt and stuck out his tongue and giggled.
>>>
>>> I felt like slapping him, but instead I asked Josh, JC, and [helpful
>>> fellow who does Burning Man related stuff] to back me up in asking him
>>> to leave.
>>>
>>> I asked this guy to leave, and he did so quietly, without complaint.
>>> I did not tell him to come back to a Tuesday meeting; we just
>>> entreated him to get some sleep.
>>>
>>> Duly reported to the community,
>>> Naomi
>>>
>>>
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