[Noisebridge-discuss] asked Matthew P. to leave

Josh Hertel jhertel242 at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 14 18:26:16 UTC 2014


I have witnessed this guys unexcellent behavior, including looking up Naomi's skirt and then  sticking out his tongue in a very creepy manner I would support the ban on this guy.



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On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 8:30 AM PDT Naomi Most wrote:

>I am definitely in favor of banning him, having heard from all of you.
> And since this person is not part of our community (he just dropped
>in a week ago, isn't a member, etc), there's no good reason why we
>should waste effort trying to remediate his bad attitude.
>
>I can't be at the meeting tomorrow (I'll be coming back from Montreal
>too late in the day to make it), but please make sure to discuss this
>without me.
>
>If someone can get a picture of him, please do.  I don't know where
>the right place to display that would be.  Whatever you-all come up
>with will be fine by me.
>
>--Naomi
>
>On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:03 AM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I was there last Saturday (not yesterday) with him.  I was working with Greg
>> on some Linux stuff.  He was randomly laughing at things and didn't
>> generally seem too with it.  He made me feel a bit uncomfortable but he was
>> talking about programming in C# which is great I guess.  But this is totally
>> 100% out of line.  Some of the phrases he was using and his mindset didn't
>> seem too conducive to what we are trying to do at Noisebridge.  I do not
>> think he should be allowed back in the space.  I also agree with Alexandra,
>> we need a picture of him and not just a description.  If you need someone to
>> verify if it is indeed him, email me.  I will see if I can swing by the
>> space ASAP and identify him so we can deal with this appropriately.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Matt Thrailkill <matt at thrailkill.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> From this description (the erratic conversation and looking up the skirt),
>> I would keep away from this guy and try to avoid interacting with him if I
>> saw this in the space. If I ran into people like this more often than not at
>> the space, I would come less often in general.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 11:47 PM, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey folks,
>>> I've submitted a pull request to our github to ban Michael P.
>>>
>>> If anyone else (particularly the women of NB) want to chime in with a few
>>> words about how they feel about this, that would be excellent.  There's also
>>> some discussion going on on Slack.
>>>
>>> Hannah
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for adding your voice in, Lupita!
>>>
>>> Just for the record, I'm not the person he harassed; that was Naomi.  As
>>> someone who's been harassed at NB before, and who *didn't* come forward
>>> about it for a long time, I get how hard it can be to put yourself out there
>>> to try to get rid of someone who's done something like that, so I'm just
>>> trying to be as loud a voice for removing abusers as I can in the hopes that
>>> the actual victim doesn't have to deal with this bullshit.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Lupita Berries <garyberries at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think for the sake of all women feeling welcomed, he should have an
>>>> unconditional ban. Even if Hannah herself doesn't want him to be banned, I
>>>> think it sets up a bad environment where such harassing behavior is
>>>> accepted, and sends out a larger unwelcoming message towards women at NB.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 5:53 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Hannah,
>>>>
>>>> On 13 April 2014 17:46, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> > Please ask him to leave.  I am not comfortable having someone who
>>>> > treated
>>>> > Naomi with such extreme disrespect by looking up her skirt existing
>>>> > in the
>>>> > space.  I do not care if he seems to be behaving fine to you as a
>>>> > guy right
>>>> > now, his behavior is unacceptable and he cannot be at NB.
>>>> >
>>>> > If you're an asshole when you haven't slept, it's your
>>>> > responsibility to get
>>>> > enough sleep to not be an asshole.  The same is true for people who
>>>> > willingly engage in substance abuse.
>>>>
>>>> Are you suggesting an unconditional, unbounded request to leave and
>>>> not return?
>>>>
>>>> Please jump into the #safe-space-wg on Slack and let's nut it out
>>>> quickly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -a
>>>>
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