[Noisebridge-discuss] Why Consensus Kills Community

Curtis Gagliardi gagliardi.curtis at gmail.com
Mon Jan 6 19:38:44 UTC 2014

Yeah, this place was more inspiring to me before I got here and found a lot
more squatters, occupiers, and people just fucking around watching youtube
videos than I did people writing code or working on electronics.   I may
have just been misinformed on what htis space is supposed to be though
since even "people shouldn't sleep here" is contentious.

On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Alfred Perlstein <bright at mu.org> wrote:

> On 1/6/14, 9:51 AM, Danny O'Brien wrote:
>> Well, actually, I think a survey should absolutely include them. The most
>> trickiest part of this conversation is always that everyone claims to be
>> the Speakers for the Dead. I'm totally happy to ask people who have left
>> Noisebridge why they left Noisebridge and I'm totally happy to have people
>> who apparently have "dozens" of their friends who left, why they left.
> FYI:
> I just joined the mailing list to see what was up after a number of former
> members/hangarounds warned me about how so much energy is wasted on these
> debates and squatters.
> What's sad is that a few years these same people tried to get me to join
> nb, at this point they're warning me off.
> My anecdotal data, sample size is 5 people I've talked to who all have
> said the same thing: stay away, the good work people do is drowned out by
> drama + creepy squatters.
> No offense intended to anyone here, they were very complimentary of the
> people doing tech, just really disillusioned with drama+squatters making
> the space annoying/unsafe.
> -Alfred
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