[Noisebridge-discuss] Fwd: Re: Pressure washer rental costs near nb

Ronald Cotoni setient at gmail.com
Tue Jan 14 20:57:34 UTC 2014

If eclair cared about the space, this person would not have repainted it
last night (which another thread mentioned SOMEONE did).   Eclair is more
than welcome to attend the meeting tonight to discuss the actions that lead
to our getting a notice from the city and how to deal with it.  I also do
not have her email nor have I ever met someone named Ecliar in the space.
 As for asking her, it her word against a fine or other more serious
consequences.  What she used is unimportant.  We need to clean it up and
dispose of it like it is toxic regardless so it doesn't come back to bite
us later.

I agree with asking at the space or on the mailing list that we just have
but I have little faith that someone in the community will step up to do
this in a safe and responsible manner.

Anyone on the list ever do professional sidewalk cleaning before with
possibly toxic materials?

On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 12:49 PM, spinach williams <
spinach.williams at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 14, 2014 12:29 PM, "Ronald Cotoni" <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Because you clearly do not quite understand how the US legal system
> works.  First, we are in a bit of a mess since Eclair painted the sidewalk.
>  This is an offense that merits a fine.  If we wash it off and for whatever
> reason the runoff contained some dangerous chemical (its paint of an
> unknown type, which means we have no clue what is in it but it is better to
> assume it is the most toxic of paint that exists), we could be held liable
> for it running into the water supply.  Depending how toxic it is.  Chances
> are we would prolly be fine but if we are not, you need insurance.  The
> companies that do this on a regular basis have liability insurance for this
> sort of thing.  So while it may cost is 300 for us to do it our selves
> (throwing out a number), it could cost way more if something bad happens.
>  I honestly don't know but you should think about this since while
> Noisebridge is a unique hackerspace with a Docracy and such, that doesn't
> necessarily apply to the rest of the planet.  If you would like, I will be
> at the meeting tonight and we can discuss the real world vs noisebridge's
> world.
> it's not a matter of my understanding things. here's a job lots of people
> do, some of whom might come through nb, so it does some good (and zero
> harm) to ask the community before looking outside. also, you can find out
> what kind of paint it is -- it's right outside. or, you can just ask
> eclaire what she used. this is only rocket science, y'all.

Ronald Cotoni
Systems Engineer
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