[Noisebridge-discuss] Sleeping

Danny O'Brien danny at spesh.com
Tue Jan 28 01:20:08 UTC 2014


Could we try it? Even if it didn't get through in that form, it would
probably lead to some constructive discussion.


On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
> Only once have I found a person who sleep at Noisebridge who didn't deny
> that they were sleeping. The rest are perfectly comfortable telling you that
> black is white. If you say sleeping is unexcellent but napping is okay,
> suddenly everyone will be "napping".
>
> I think a "people found sleeping between 10pm and 10am during the week will
> be woken up and asked to leave the space the first time and banned the
> second time" rule would pretty much solve 90% of the problem. Maybe make the
> second time have to be within 30 days of the first?
>
> Though I don't think even this compromise would pass consensus: the minority
> of people okay with people sleeping overnight or living in the space would
> block it.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I sometimes feel that sleeping vs resting eyes vs napping is akin to what
>> color should we paint the bike shed?  It just is easier to say the bike
>> sheds we make are always going to be X color.  Thats it.  The differences
>> between resting your eyes, napping and sleeping are almost irrelevant.  It
>> just leads to more discussion and wasted time when we could just deal with
>> it one way or another and call the issue "CLOSED FIXED".
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:20 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Al,
>>>
>>> i'll start making morning appearances more often and see whos there and
>>> what they are working on in the space.
>>>
>>> My concern was turning the "no overnight sleeping" policy into a witch
>>> hunt for napping or "closing ones eyes" when some people really do hack all
>>> night.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> While it is fun to imagine technical solutions, it basically comes down
>>>> to having people wake others up and making Noisebridge a place where people
>>>> don't sleep overnight at.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, the sleepers both a) repeatedly sleep overnight even
>>>> though they know the community overwhelmingly is against it but b) there's a
>>>> minority of members who will block banning these sleepers from the space.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Alfred Perlstein <bright at mu.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> epic!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/27/14, 10:06 AM, Oren Beck wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Wake up by Quadcopter and follow spot+PA.
>>>>>
>>>>> YOU_YES..YOU!!! WAKE UP AND LEAVE BEFORE FORMAL TRESPASS CHARGES ARE
>>>>> FILED!
>>>>>
>>>>> If they damage the 'bot- slam dunk case for vandalism on top of
>>>>> trespass seems logical.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oren Beck
>>>>>
>>>>> 816.632.3695
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:01 AM, Alfred Perlstein <bright at mu.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/27/14 9:39 AM, Norman Bradley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't do this because of my transportation situation. If there is
>>>>>> somebody that is usually up and about in the early morning say 2-4 am that
>>>>>> would be the time to kick out sleepers. The only way we are going to solve
>>>>>> the problem is to make it consistently uncomfortable to sleep there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Strobe light?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Boxing timer?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Alfred
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>> --
>> Ronald Cotoni
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