[Noisebridge-discuss] Kitchen Plans

Torrie Fischer tdfischer at hackerbots.net
Wed Jul 30 20:14:38 UTC 2014


Anyone on nb-discuss here looking to contribute some tall chairs or bar stools 
for this, or a few bucks to pick up some somewhere?

On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 13:13:23 Naomi Most wrote:
> +1 to the "coffeehouse" idea -- nothing like reinforcing concepts through
> lived design.
> 
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 11:26 AM, Patrick O'Doherty <p at trickod.com> wrote:
> > I like the idea of making the space into a coffeehouse work space. Makes
> > the area useful for things outside of "food", especially if it works well
> > as a meeting space for smaller groups.
> > 
> > Tables around the columns sound like a great idea! I'd be down to help out
> > with that :)
> > 
> > On 30 July 2014 10:09, Torrie Fischer <tdfischer at hackerbots.net> wrote:
> >> On Wednesday, July 30, 2014 08:57:23 Gregory Dillon wrote:
> >> > ​I agree with girlgeek that the problem is people didn't want to do
> >> 
> >> their
> >> 
> >> > dishes, and too many people who wanted to use Noisebridge as a squat.
> >> > 
> >> > If others agree, I'd rather see the space identified with the function
> >> > similar to a coffee house seating area, rather than a "breakroom".   I
> >> > think of a breakroom as go there for 15 minutes and gossip, and that's
> >> 
> >> not
> >> 
> >> > so awesome.   But a place where the design function is to encourage one
> >> 
> >> to
> >> 
> >> > sit for 45 minutes and do some work at a table, would be super.
> >> > 
> >> > I'd like to participate in moving chairs around tables around to
> >> > achieve
> >> > this coffeehouse work-space function, if there is a coalescence of
> >> > agreement around that plan.  And, I'm told that Starbucks research says
> >> > small round tables are ideal, because if one person is at a table, it
> >> > is
> >> > more inviting with a round table for a second and third person to join.
> >> > So that there are design element encouraging  people to exchange of
> >> 
> >> ideas
> >> 
> >> > and knowledge within the area.  The coffeehouse space function could
> >> 
> >> also
> >> 
> >> > double as a meeting space for small groups.
> >> 
> >> I'd be interested in constructing a hexagonal or circular table around
> >> one or
> >> two of the columns in that area. Anyone else? :)
> >> 
> >> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 5:30 AM, girlgeek <girlgeek at wt.net> wrote:
> >> > >  The supply that is unreliable is tools willing to do their own
> >> 
> >> dishes.
> >> 
> >> > > Claudia
> >> > > 
> >> > > 
> >> > > On 7/30/14 12:36 AM, Torrie Fischer wrote:
> >> > > 
> >> > > Earlier today I was thinking about the kitchen conundrum a bit and
> >> > > postulated that the buildup of dishes is correlated with an
> >> > > unreliable
> >> > > presence of cleaning tools and supplies.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Does anyone else think this is a reasonable hypothesis and ideas on
> >> 
> >> how to
> >> 
> >> > > test/solve in the future?
> >> > > 
> >> > > On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 23:36:55 Andy Isaacson wrote:
> >> > >  On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 11:18:41PM -0700, Jean-Jacques Zenger wrote:
> >> > >  
> >> > >  The
> >> > > 
> >> > > problem with it is that we are subject to health department
> >> > > regulations,  inspections, and need a permit. That's all do-able, but
> >> > > many members don't like the outside interference that comes with it.
> >> > > People tell me that they don't want a big kitchen because they don't
> >> > > need it.
> >> > > 
> >> > >  Agreed, I think that getting into compliance as a large kitchen
> >> 
> >> would be
> >> 
> >> > > a ton of work to support a function that is at odds with the point
> >> > > and
> >> > > the spirit of Noisebridge.
> >> > > 
> >> > > I want a place to make an occasional coffee and maybe reheat some
> >> > > leftovers, wash my coffee mug, and fill my water bottle with
> >> > > delicious
> >> > > Hetch Hetchy water.  More than that I don't see the point.
> >> > > 
> >> > >  I plan to go to Building Resouce, the City recycling center for all
> >> > > 
> >> > > kinds of building features, on Wednesday. Their inventory is all
> >> > > donated home and business items that are not wanted after a remodel.
> >> > > Their prices are low to encourage re-use of the items, and keep the
> >> > > building materials and fixtures out of the dump. What I will be
> >> > > looking for is a "single bowl" kitchen sink, with a cabinet below. It
> >> > > will be either a standard one, or I would like to find something
> >> > > unique and fun, reflecting Noisebridge.
> >> > > 
> >> > >  Standard seems reasonable (and I like double bowl kitchen sinks, but
> >> > > 
> >> > > whatever).  If I were dictator I'd love to see a custom countertop
> >> 
> >> cast
> >> 
> >> > > out of concrete or fabbed out of steel or made of epoxied lumber, but
> >> > > I'm not going to do that work so I don't get to make demands. :)
> >> > > 
> >> > >  Beyond this equipment, I currently have no other plans for the
> >> > > 
> >> > > kitchen. I want to let do-ocracy and members decide what else they
> >> > > want for our break room.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Jean-Jacques
> >> > > Kitchen Team Leader
> >> > > 
> >> > >  Thanks for doing all of this work.
> >> > > 
> >> > > -andy
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