[Noisebridge-discuss] Parking meter at noisebride

Torrie Fischer tdfischer at hackerbots.net
Mon Jun 9 20:26:53 UTC 2014


On Monday, June 09, 2014 12:43:03 Naomi Most wrote:
> So -- in the first incident, Tony heard from a Member that it was
> (paraphrasing) "ok to put them there but don't turn them on".  That
> was 2 weeks ago.
> 
> He turned them on anyway (possibly getting encouragement from Sid).
> 
> He almost certainly knows how much it costs to run ASICs.
> 
> I expect this kind of thing from a 3-year-old who needs to be told a
> zillion times, not from a grown person.
> 
> But I'll agree it's more excellent to try to contact him and maybe
> give him notice that we're not happy and we're planning to rip this
> stuff out and sell it if he doesn't come collect it.

Can Noisebridge just sell private property like that? How does ownership work 
in this situation?

> 
> --Naomi
> 
> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden
> 
> <jeffreyatw at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks, Naomi.
> > 
> > Selling them does seem to be the best course of action, but it would help
> > to know whether Tony was told, in some way that we can actually keep a
> > record of the communication, to remove these. Just telling him in-person
> > to email rack does not seem like enough forewarning before we actually go
> > ahead and attempt to dismantle the cage.
> > 
> > Is he on the discussion list? Does anyone have his email? I'd like to give
> > this guy the benefit of the doubt.
> > 
> > Jeffrey
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Whaaaat.  Same person? Really?  That surprises me only in the "type"
> >> of offense these two different behaviors represent, but I'll believe
> >> you if you say so, John.
> >> 
> >> For the record, this person's name is Tony Cole.
> >> 
> >> Noisebridge should sell the bitcoin miners to fund our electrical
> >> refit.  Plugging something back in after being told to unplug them,
> >> and going as far as covering them in an awkward cage that makes it
> >> hard to remove them, strikes me as behavior that doesn't deserve
> >> courteous treatment in return.
> >> 
> >> --Naomi
> >> 
> >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:02 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Jeffery,
> >> > 
> >> > Part of the reason why this is so unexcellent is that its contained
> >> > within a
> >> > locked "animal" cage that is too large to fit through the  server
> >> > closet
> >> > door. We'd have to cut the locks and disassemble or something to move
> >> > it.
> >> > 
> >> > If he doesn't collect it really soon, it should go to e-waste IMO.
> >> > 
> >> > -John
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Jeffrey Carl Faden
> >> > <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>
> >> > 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> Wow, the same person, huh?
> >> >> 
> >> >> What does the bitcoin mining cluster look like? What's the easiest way
> >> >> to
> >> >> send it to e-waste? Would be happy to help get rid of it.
> >> >> 
> >> >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:37 AM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com> 
wrote:
> >> >>> Claudia,
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> As I understood, this "person" was very promptly and firmly told to
> >> >>> remove the parking meter from the space. Due to this (& other)
> >> >>> unexcellence,
> >> >>> there are people willing to remove him from the space.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> This same individual installed a bitcoin mining cluster in the server
> >> >>> closet, and repeatedly plugged it in after being told not to without
> >> >>> emailing rack list and obtaining further "guidance" - that is pretty
> >> >>> unexcellent on a number of levels.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> I unplugged said cluster last night, because it was noisy as well as
> >> >>> an
> >> >>> unexcellent misuse of resources.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> My personal thoughts are that people who cause drama, and don't
> >> >>> respect
> >> >>> Noisebrige, can get the f*** out. I don't think this requires
> >> >>> egregiously
> >> >>> bad behavior.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> -John
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:50 AM, girlgeek <girlgeek at wt.net> wrote:
> >> >>>> If nobody was wanting to get rid of the perps that is a shame.  They
> >> >>>> are
> >> >>>> unexcellent people who should not be allowed in the space as
> >> >>>> demonstrated by
> >> >>>> this incident.
> >> >>>> Claudia
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> On 6/9/2014 7:05 AM, Sergiusz 'q3k' Bazański wrote:
> >> >>>>> I'm not sure. When I left they were still there. It all turned into
> >> >>>>> personal drama later on - I can't really say more about that, I
> >> >>>>> don't really
> >> >>>>> know people's names...
> >> >>>>> 
> >> >>>>> But nobody was really wanting to get rid of the perpetrators, from
> >> >>>>> what
> >> >>>>> I've seen...
> >> >>>> 
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> >> --
> >> Naomi Theora Most
> >> naomi at nthmost.com
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> >> 
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> >> 
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