[Noisebridge-discuss] Parking meter at noisebride

Jeffrey Carl Faden jeffreyatw at gmail.com
Mon Jun 9 20:30:14 UTC 2014


At what point does one consider it abandoned? Are the mining boxes labeled?

What would happen if someone unaffiliated with Noisebridge steals the
boxes, sells them, and then Noisebridge coincidentally receives a donation
similar to the market value of these boxes?

(That last part was a joke, I think.)

Jeffrey


On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Torrie Fischer <tdfischer at hackerbots.net>
wrote:

> On Monday, June 09, 2014 12:43:03 Naomi Most wrote:
> > So -- in the first incident, Tony heard from a Member that it was
> > (paraphrasing) "ok to put them there but don't turn them on".  That
> > was 2 weeks ago.
> >
> > He turned them on anyway (possibly getting encouragement from Sid).
> >
> > He almost certainly knows how much it costs to run ASICs.
> >
> > I expect this kind of thing from a 3-year-old who needs to be told a
> > zillion times, not from a grown person.
> >
> > But I'll agree it's more excellent to try to contact him and maybe
> > give him notice that we're not happy and we're planning to rip this
> > stuff out and sell it if he doesn't come collect it.
>
> Can Noisebridge just sell private property like that? How does ownership
> work
> in this situation?
>
> >
> > --Naomi
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden
> >
> > <jeffreyatw at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks, Naomi.
> > >
> > > Selling them does seem to be the best course of action, but it would
> help
> > > to know whether Tony was told, in some way that we can actually keep a
> > > record of the communication, to remove these. Just telling him
> in-person
> > > to email rack does not seem like enough forewarning before we actually
> go
> > > ahead and attempt to dismantle the cage.
> > >
> > > Is he on the discussion list? Does anyone have his email? I'd like to
> give
> > > this guy the benefit of the doubt.
> > >
> > > Jeffrey
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Whaaaat.  Same person? Really?  That surprises me only in the "type"
> > >> of offense these two different behaviors represent, but I'll believe
> > >> you if you say so, John.
> > >>
> > >> For the record, this person's name is Tony Cole.
> > >>
> > >> Noisebridge should sell the bitcoin miners to fund our electrical
> > >> refit.  Plugging something back in after being told to unplug them,
> > >> and going as far as covering them in an awkward cage that makes it
> > >> hard to remove them, strikes me as behavior that doesn't deserve
> > >> courteous treatment in return.
> > >>
> > >> --Naomi
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:02 PM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> > Jeffery,
> > >> >
> > >> > Part of the reason why this is so unexcellent is that its contained
> > >> > within a
> > >> > locked "animal" cage that is too large to fit through the  server
> > >> > closet
> > >> > door. We'd have to cut the locks and disassemble or something to
> move
> > >> > it.
> > >> >
> > >> > If he doesn't collect it really soon, it should go to e-waste IMO.
> > >> >
> > >> > -John
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Jeffrey Carl Faden
> > >> > <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>
> > >> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >> Wow, the same person, huh?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> What does the bitcoin mining cluster look like? What's the easiest
> way
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> send it to e-waste? Would be happy to help get rid of it.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:37 AM, John Ellis <neurofog at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> >>> Claudia,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> As I understood, this "person" was very promptly and firmly told
> to
> > >> >>> remove the parking meter from the space. Due to this (& other)
> > >> >>> unexcellence,
> > >> >>> there are people willing to remove him from the space.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> This same individual installed a bitcoin mining cluster in the
> server
> > >> >>> closet, and repeatedly plugged it in after being told not to
> without
> > >> >>> emailing rack list and obtaining further "guidance" - that is
> pretty
> > >> >>> unexcellent on a number of levels.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I unplugged said cluster last night, because it was noisy as well
> as
> > >> >>> an
> > >> >>> unexcellent misuse of resources.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> My personal thoughts are that people who cause drama, and don't
> > >> >>> respect
> > >> >>> Noisebrige, can get the f*** out. I don't think this requires
> > >> >>> egregiously
> > >> >>> bad behavior.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> -John
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:50 AM, girlgeek <girlgeek at wt.net> wrote:
> > >> >>>> If nobody was wanting to get rid of the perps that is a shame.
>  They
> > >> >>>> are
> > >> >>>> unexcellent people who should not be allowed in the space as
> > >> >>>> demonstrated by
> > >> >>>> this incident.
> > >> >>>> Claudia
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> On 6/9/2014 7:05 AM, Sergiusz 'q3k' Bazański wrote:
> > >> >>>>> I'm not sure. When I left they were still there. It all turned
> into
> > >> >>>>> personal drama later on - I can't really say more about that, I
> > >> >>>>> don't really
> > >> >>>>> know people's names...
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> But nobody was really wanting to get rid of the perpetrators,
> from
> > >> >>>>> what
> > >> >>>>> I've seen...
> > >> >>>>
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> > >> --
> > >> Naomi Theora Most
> > >> naomi at nthmost.com
> > >> +1-415-728-7490
> > >>
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> > >>
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