[Noisebridge-discuss] noisebridge / the door is fucked up

Hannah Grimm dharlette at gmail.com
Thu Mar 6 06:39:30 UTC 2014


I still don't see what any of the (completely legitimate) complaints Jake
has have to do with board elections.


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Gregory Dillon <gregorydillon at gmail.com>wrote:

>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
> On the topic of constructive suggestions, what was the point and how did
>> Hannah miss it?
>>
>
> I read it that  Jake was not saying electoral fraud, but that  the Board
> of Directors don't really direct.   Hence a "shame election."
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On the topic of constructive suggestions, what was the point and how did
>> Hannah miss it?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>
>>> you have completely missed the point.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 5 Mar 2014, Hannah Grimm wrote:
>>>
>>>  Fortunately, the only duties of the board are to fulfill our "being a
>>>> nonprofit" requirements, so you deciding you think they
>>>> aren't illegitimate has exactly ZERO effect on anything going on at
>>>> Noisebridge.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Kevin <bfb at riseup.net> wrote:
>>>>       On March 5, 2014 12:42:03 AM PST, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>>       > someone cut the wires to the payphone that allows people to
>>>> open the
>>>>       > gate
>>>>       > with a door code.  probably because they figured (correctly)
>>>> that
>>>>       > people
>>>>       > would just jam the door open so it doesn't ever latch, rather
>>>> than fix
>>>>       > it.
>>>>       >
>>>>       > nobody capable of splicing eight wires has fixed it yet, as of
>>>> last
>>>>       > night,
>>>>       > because the only people who go to noisebridge now think that
>>>> wire is
>>>>       > for
>>>>       > tying a sleeping bag onto your backpack.
>>>>       >
>>>>       > nobody has posted a message to the discuss list because people
>>>> who
>>>>       > know
>>>>       > how to use computers no longer go to noisebridge to know to
>>>> post about
>>>>       > it.
>>>>       >
>>>>       > also, one of the toilets at noisebridge is now for "liquids
>>>> only"
>>>>       > because
>>>>       > the skill and will to repair a clogged toilet are not
>>>> available.  The
>>>>       > clog
>>>>       > is likely due to lack of toilet paper causing someone to use a
>>>> handy
>>>>       > rag
>>>>       > to wipe their ass rather than buy toilet paper.  There is a mop
>>>> there,
>>>>       > and
>>>>       > a sign saying to mop up "when" the toilet leaks.
>>>>       >
>>>>       > until the beaurocrats and blockers use their marvelous power of
>>>>       > consensus,
>>>>       > blockage, grandstanding and bickering to do something to
>>>> improve the
>>>>       > overall culture at noisebridge to a point where hackers
>>>> actually want
>>>>       > to
>>>>       > go there, i refuse to acknowledge the results of this sham
>>>> election
>>>>       > and I
>>>>       > hope others do the same.
>>>>       >
>>>>       > -jake
>>>>       >
>>>>       > On Tue, 4 Mar 2014, Tom Lowenthal wrote:
>>>>       >
>>>>       > > Fine folks, this is a message about bureaucracy. If that's
>>>> not your
>>>>       > > thing, you should be fine to ignore it.
>>>>       > >
>>>>       > > We had our annual general meeting. The only motion was one to
>>>>       > adjourn.
>>>>       > > It passed.
>>>>       > >
>>>>       > > Or board election closed at 7:30pm this evening. Kevin, J.C.,
>>>> and
>>>>       > Tom
>>>>       > > independently counted the ballots, and their counts agreed.
>>>> The
>>>>       > > following are our new board:
>>>>       > >
>>>>       > > * Ari Lacenski
>>>>       > > * Madelynn Martiniere
>>>>       > > * Tom Lowenthal
>>>>       > > * Al Sweigart
>>>>       > > * Naomi Most
>>>>       > >
>>>>       > > The board then met. Tom and Madelynn were present in person
>>>> and
>>>>       > Naomi
>>>>       > > called in by phone. Five motions were discussed; all were
>>>> approved:
>>>>       > >
>>>>       > > * All present are welcome to spectate this meeting.
>>>>       > > * Danny O'Brien is Noisebridge's treasurer/CFO.
>>>>       > > * Tom Lowenthal is Noisebridge's secretary.
>>>>       > > * The board will meet again on 2014-03-12 at 7pm.
>>>>       > > * The meeting is adjourned.
>>>>       > >
>>>>       > > That's all, folks!
>>>>       > > -Tom
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>>>>       > >
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>>>>
>>>> Jake, last night the gate had no power and when power was restored
>>>> (temporarily by JC with his bare hands), codes were not
>>>> being acknowledged. Hacker Casey fixed that by restoring the 8 bit
>>>> hardware thing's connection to the computer and plans
>>>> were discussed to run a new cable. Many have spent time with a plunger
>>>> over the toilet. Independent declogging efforts have
>>>> run their course, maybe we should hire a plumber?
>>>>
>>>> I like to make a distinction between policy makers and culture makers.
>>>> Consensus cannot dictate culture at Noisebridge.
>>>>  Culture is made by everyone in the space all the time.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I still hear you do not acknowledge the bod election. What's
>>>> the board do anyway?
>>>>
>>>> -Kevin
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