[Noisebridge-discuss] noisebridge / the door is fucked up

Ronald Cotoni setient at gmail.com
Thu Mar 6 18:25:38 UTC 2014


Thank you for stating this Al.  I fully support the board and it's
decisions.


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Gregory Dillon <gregorydillon at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks Al, Great post.  People want to have hope for Noisebridge, and it
> would be great if the brd of directors does Direct.   As you says, that's a
> legal responsibility.   With the  near crisis conditions at Noisebridge,
> its a necessary that Board exercises purposes.
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> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jake and all,
>>
>> I understand your frustration, because it's one I've had too. I think
>> that there are a few people at Noisebridge who like it being a clubhouse or
>> a place with free rent (but only for their friends, not the general public,
>> of course) and use consensus so that they can prevent anyone from changing
>> this. For all the anarchist rhetoric, Noisebridge is the most conservative
>> organization I've ever been a part of.
>>
>> People sleeping overnight at the space has been a problem FOR YEARS.
>> People living out of the space and storing their personal things there
>> has been a problem FOR YEARS.
>> Being unable to get rid of people who abuse and steal from others or
>> regularly get stoned/drunk/loud/unexcellent has been a problem FOR YEARS.
>>
>> The bylaws of Noisebridge (our Constitution, as it were) state that the
>> board of directors makes all the executive decisions for the organization.
>> It's just that the board has deferred to the consensus process in the past.
>> I believe this is precisely why these problems are so hard to fix,
>> including when I served on the board in 2011.
>>
>> Members have gotten tired of this, which is why a board that wants to
>> take a more active hand in stopping these abuses has been voted in.
>>
>> Jake, I know we're going to have to start proving ourselves with deeds
>> instead of just words, but you're a great contributor to the space. Making
>> Noisebridge more welcoming to hackers like you is exactly what we want to
>> do in 2014.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On 5 March 2014 23:27, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>> > not much, i was just stirred to action by the self-congratulatory
>>> progress
>>> > of electing a meaningless board while the ship that is noisebridge
>>> slowly
>>> > fills with sewage while waiting for a crew.
>>> >
>>> > what was i supposed to do, threaten to hold my breath until changes are
>>> > made?
>>>
>>> I believe the answer is "grab a plunger" ?
>>>
>>> (which you did, right?)
>>>
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>>>
>>> -a
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Ronald Cotoni
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