[Noisebridge-discuss] why is sleeping at noisebridge a problem?

Jake jake at spaz.org
Fri Mar 7 01:50:08 UTC 2014

Charles you have assumed too much about me.  I never said that people 
should be strapped to beds or given drugs they don't consent to, although 
I do think there are extreme situations where strapping someone down is 
better (for them) than the alternative.

Also you're wrong suggesting that I "stigmatize, become a doctor over 
night and tell those who tried that they are unworthy for whatever 

I am not going to try to discuss this with you further but I felt the need 
to clarify my position after you misrepresented me.

The video you linked was good but I think people should watch her TED talk 
instead of the interview about the TED talk.


On Thu, 6 Mar 2014, Charles Tang wrote:

> Your ideology is what causes people to be strapped to beds for weeks, filled up with drugs they don't consent to. 
> Just because they don't all exist on your margins of normalcy doesn't give you the right to stigmatize, become a doctor over night and tell those who tried that they are
> unworthy for whatever reason.
> The mafia is in town.
> On 6 March 2014 17:22, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:
>       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7WM6XFkxWw
> On 6 March 2014 17:14, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>       Hannah wrote:
>             Jake: Try to avoid using ablist language like "crazy" in the future or
>             using "schizophrenic" as a catch-all term for undesirable.  Not Cool.
> Hannah i think you are too quick to judge and too slow to read.  I cited an article about a link between lack of sleep and the causes of schizophrenia, which is an
> actual illness despite your euphemisms like "neurotypical".
> Mental illness is not imaginary, or simply a lack of political correctness.  People who hurt themselves (or others) because their mind is playing cruel tricks on
> them are not doing it because people are judging them for being different, but because (in some cases) their brain is not getting enough autophagy.  This may be
> because of the way they were born, or it may simply be because they are not sleeping enough.
> If you don't understand the meaning of the term "acting crazy" i suggest you visit a mental hospital for a while and tell me the term has no meaning.  You're the
> ablist here.
> -jake
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