[Noisebridge-discuss] why is sleeping at noisebridge a problem?

Jessica Ross jessica.r.ross at gmail.com
Fri Mar 7 01:57:51 UTC 2014

Hi Charles,

Can you take a look at the title of the thread and maybe keep your comments
relevant? You have derailed the entire conversation.


On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 7:48 PM, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:

> And you have no clue: what does a struggle constitute? where does one
> serve your pedagogical framework? Who are worthy of becoming educated and
> who are worthy of touching electronics.
> I guess that the vast majority of us "schizophrenics" have to just sit
> there, work menial jobs, only to retire on disability, in a shitty
> apartment in a functional exclusion zone in the tenderloin. For it's your
> world that constructs what any of us are capable of. It's your world that
> has functionally created the only viable reality one may live in.
> All alternatives are foreclosed.
> And you will pin your mistakes on this one individual.
> And actually make him live in a conspiracy.
> When he was just a regular person to begin with.
> If everyone were "schizophrenic" and you were the only "normal," then
> you'd be the only one to be labeled. We'd call you the "normal," construct
> discourse around that word as problematic, and force you to work menial
> jobs for the rest of eternity, because you wouldn't be schizophrenic, or
> just in general paranoid.
> Even if you were capable of something extraordinary.
> We'll push you down.
> We'll make impossible advancement.
> Because it's your bosses job to put up road blocks.
> We'd fuck with you too. We'd assert your normal reality, make you over
> identify with your symptomology, and reduce the capital behind your way of
> knowing to 0. Your epistemology will be constantly dismissed, as your very
> being, actions and context would be rendered vacuous in the vacuum of your
> identity. All of us "schizophrenics" would become the judge, jury and
> trial. We'll wait for you to click an ad or watch a video online, anything
> a "normal" would watch. I think a list of non-comprehensive examples would
> be the following:
> 1. Stock-photography of cats.
> 2. "regular" porn, only heterosexual missionary style.
> 3. All mainstream media.
> 4. Start-up news
> 5. More start-up news.
> 6. Look at more start-up news.
> 7. Read emails form your boss at whatever time they choose to send it to
> you.
> 8. Work on a hobby, because you aren't allowed to do what you are really
> interested because of the psychic control that capital produced.
> 9. Join a group that asserts it's authority over anyone not "normal." It
> would be hard, considering you'd be the only normal person. But, I think
> meetup.com would be a good place.
> 10. Reject all conspiracy theories and other non-linear patters of thought
> as "schizophrenic" or "paranoid."
> The problem here is I've accepted it now, the world is just what it is.
> Moreover, I will likely end up retiring on disability, right? After working
> a menial job at a coffee shop.
> No Al, I won't be taking a break.
> On 6 March 2014 17:31, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:
>> Your ideology is what causes people to be strapped to beds for weeks,
>> filled up with drugs they don't consent to.
>> Just because they don't all exist on your margins of normalcy doesn't
>> give you the right to stigmatize, become a doctor over night and tell those
>> who tried that they are unworthy for whatever reason.
>> The mafia is in town.
>> On 6 March 2014 17:22, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7WM6XFkxWw
>>> On 6 March 2014 17:14, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>> Hannah wrote:
>>>>> Jake: Try to avoid using ablist language like "crazy" in the future or
>>>>> using "schizophrenic" as a catch-all term for undesirable.  Not Cool.
>>>> Hannah i think you are too quick to judge and too slow to read.  I
>>>> cited an article about a link between lack of sleep and the causes of
>>>> schizophrenia, which is an actual illness despite your euphemisms like
>>>> "neurotypical".
>>>> Mental illness is not imaginary, or simply a lack of political
>>>> correctness.  People who hurt themselves (or others) because their mind is
>>>> playing cruel tricks on them are not doing it because people are judging
>>>> them for being different, but because (in some cases) their brain is not
>>>> getting enough autophagy.  This may be because of the way they were born,
>>>> or it may simply be because they are not sleeping enough.
>>>> If you don't understand the meaning of the term "acting crazy" i
>>>> suggest you visit a mental hospital for a while and tell me the term has no
>>>> meaning.  You're the ablist here.
>>>> -jake
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