[Noisebridge-discuss] why is sleeping at noisebridge a problem?

Charles Tang cjtang1 at asu.edu
Fri Mar 7 02:06:15 UTC 2014

This is a disagreement for the very reason that you say so. You are not the
arbiter of "community boundaries," Jake. Regardless of whatever you have
"done" for the space.

And people aren't dismissing, because you are a jerk. You don't know me and
you don't know where I have come from, even if there was a root on my

Lets just use the same tactics as the NSA at noisebridge.

Lets diminish him, lets make him question his reality, lets do (x) and make
an infinite loop that he cannot break.

"If your strategy in life is to send dozens of ranting emails that are too
long to read, and behave the same way in person, then yes you will have
trouble finding a non-menial job because nobody will want to be around you
if they can avoid it."

And yes, this is my only strategy in life Jake, what a wonderful reduction
of who and what I am. You do seem to like to reduce things, such as, a
single medical journal, who "crazy" people are, who is capable of becoming
"educated," who, who who.

On 6 March 2014 18:00, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

> if your strategy in life is to send dozens of ranting emails that are too
> long to read, and behave the same way in person, then yes you will have
> trouble finding a non-menial job because nobody will want to be around you
> if they can avoid it.
> This is a mailing list but you are making yourself quite unwelcome rather
> convincing people of anything other than "Charles is on a bender"
> Since it seems that you're asking me a question, i'll answer with this:
> if you have to struggle to keep your mind focused and talk about things at
> a reasonable and appropriate rate, then do it.  If you refuse to take
> responsibility for acting within the boundaries of a community, don't
> complain when people dismiss you as unreasonable and irresponsible.
> -jake
> On Thu, 6 Mar 2014, Charles Tang wrote:
>  And you have no clue: what does a struggle constitute? where does one
>> serve your pedagogical framework? Who are worthy of becoming educated and
>> who are worthy of touching
>> electronics.
>> I guess that the vast majority of us "schizophrenics" have to just sit
>> there, work menial jobs, only to retire on disability, in a shitty
>> apartment in a functional exclusion
>> zone in the tenderloin. For it's your world that constructs what any of
>> us are capable of. It's your world that has functionally created the only
>> viable reality one may live
>> in.
>> All alternatives are foreclosed.
>> And you will pin your mistakes on this one individual.
>> And actually make him live in a conspiracy.
>> When he was just a regular person to begin with.
>> If everyone were "schizophrenic" and you were the only "normal," then
>> you'd be the only one to be labeled. We'd call you the "normal," construct
>> discourse around that word as
>> problematic, and force you to work menial jobs for the rest of eternity,
>> because you wouldn't be schizophrenic, or just in general paranoid.
>> Even if you were capable of something extraordinary.
>> We'll push you down.
>> We'll make impossible advancement.
>> Because it's your bosses job to put up road blocks.
>> We'd fuck with you too. We'd assert your normal reality, make you over
>> identify with your symptomology, and reduce the capital behind your way of
>> knowing to 0. Your epistemology
>> will be constantly dismissed, as your very being, actions and context
>> would be rendered vacuous in the vacuum of your identity. All of us
>> "schizophrenics" would become the
>> judge, jury and trial. We'll wait for you to click an ad or watch a video
>> online, anything a "normal" would watch. I think a list of
>> non-comprehensive examples would be the
>> following:
>> 1. Stock-photography of cats.
>> 2. "regular" porn, only heterosexual missionary style.
>> 3. All mainstream media.
>> 4. Start-up news
>> 5. More start-up news.
>> 6. Look at more start-up news.
>> 7. Read emails form your boss at whatever time they choose to send it to
>> you.
>> 8. Work on a hobby, because you aren't allowed to do what you are really
>> interested because of the psychic control that capital produced.
>> 9. Join a group that asserts it's authority over anyone not "normal." It
>> would be hard, considering you'd be the only normal person. But, I think
>> meetup.com would be a good
>> place.
>> 10. Reject all conspiracy theories and other non-linear patters of
>> thought as "schizophrenic" or "paranoid."
>> The problem here is I've accepted it now, the world is just what it is.
>> Moreover, I will likely end up retiring on disability, right? After working
>> a menial job at a coffee
>> shop.
>> No Al, I won't be taking a break.
>> On 6 March 2014 17:31, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:
>>       Your ideology is what causes people to be strapped to beds for
>> weeks, filled up with drugs they don't consent to.
>> Just because they don't all exist on your margins of normalcy doesn't
>> give you the right to stigmatize, become a doctor over night and tell those
>> who tried that they are
>> unworthy for whatever reason.
>> The mafia is in town.
>> On 6 March 2014 17:22, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:
>>       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7WM6XFkxWw
>> On 6 March 2014 17:14, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>       Hannah wrote:
>>             Jake: Try to avoid using ablist language like "crazy" in the
>> future or
>>             using "schizophrenic" as a catch-all term for undesirable.
>>  Not Cool.
>> Hannah i think you are too quick to judge and too slow to read.  I cited
>> an article about a link between lack of sleep and the causes of
>> schizophrenia, which
>> is an actual illness despite your euphemisms like "neurotypical".
>> Mental illness is not imaginary, or simply a lack of political
>> correctness.  People who hurt themselves (or others) because their mind is
>> playing cruel tricks
>> on them are not doing it because people are judging them for being
>> different, but because (in some cases) their brain is not getting enough
>> autophagy.  This
>> may be because of the way they were born, or it may simply be because
>> they are not sleeping enough.
>> If you don't understand the meaning of the term "acting crazy" i suggest
>> you visit a mental hospital for a while and tell me the term has no
>> meaning.  You're
>> the ablist here.
>> -jake
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