[Noisebridge-discuss] why is sleeping at noisebridge a problem?

Ronald Cotoni setient at gmail.com
Fri Mar 7 02:09:42 UTC 2014

So you are not taking a break?

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:

> This is a disagreement for the very reason that you say so. You are not
> the arbiter of "community boundaries," Jake. Regardless of whatever you
> have "done" for the space.
> And people aren't dismissing, because you are a jerk. You don't know me
> and you don't know where I have come from, even if there was a root on my
> computer.
> Lets just use the same tactics as the NSA at noisebridge.
> Lets diminish him, lets make him question his reality, lets do (x) and
> make an infinite loop that he cannot break.
> "If your strategy in life is to send dozens of ranting emails that are
> too long to read, and behave the same way in person, then yes you will have
> trouble finding a non-menial job because nobody will want to be around you
> if they can avoid it."
> And yes, this is my only strategy in life Jake, what a wonderful reduction
> of who and what I am. You do seem to like to reduce things, such as, a
> single medical journal, who "crazy" people are, who is capable of becoming
> "educated," who, who who.
> On 6 March 2014 18:00, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>> if your strategy in life is to send dozens of ranting emails that are too
>> long to read, and behave the same way in person, then yes you will have
>> trouble finding a non-menial job because nobody will want to be around you
>> if they can avoid it.
>> This is a mailing list but you are making yourself quite unwelcome rather
>> convincing people of anything other than "Charles is on a bender"
>> Since it seems that you're asking me a question, i'll answer with this:
>> if you have to struggle to keep your mind focused and talk about things
>> at a reasonable and appropriate rate, then do it.  If you refuse to take
>> responsibility for acting within the boundaries of a community, don't
>> complain when people dismiss you as unreasonable and irresponsible.
>> -jake
>> On Thu, 6 Mar 2014, Charles Tang wrote:
>>  And you have no clue: what does a struggle constitute? where does one
>>> serve your pedagogical framework? Who are worthy of becoming educated and
>>> who are worthy of touching
>>> electronics.
>>> I guess that the vast majority of us "schizophrenics" have to just sit
>>> there, work menial jobs, only to retire on disability, in a shitty
>>> apartment in a functional exclusion
>>> zone in the tenderloin. For it's your world that constructs what any of
>>> us are capable of. It's your world that has functionally created the only
>>> viable reality one may live
>>> in.
>>> All alternatives are foreclosed.
>>> And you will pin your mistakes on this one individual.
>>> And actually make him live in a conspiracy.
>>> When he was just a regular person to begin with.
>>> If everyone were "schizophrenic" and you were the only "normal," then
>>> you'd be the only one to be labeled. We'd call you the "normal," construct
>>> discourse around that word as
>>> problematic, and force you to work menial jobs for the rest of eternity,
>>> because you wouldn't be schizophrenic, or just in general paranoid.
>>> Even if you were capable of something extraordinary.
>>> We'll push you down.
>>> We'll make impossible advancement.
>>> Because it's your bosses job to put up road blocks.
>>> We'd fuck with you too. We'd assert your normal reality, make you over
>>> identify with your symptomology, and reduce the capital behind your way of
>>> knowing to 0. Your epistemology
>>> will be constantly dismissed, as your very being, actions and context
>>> would be rendered vacuous in the vacuum of your identity. All of us
>>> "schizophrenics" would become the
>>> judge, jury and trial. We'll wait for you to click an ad or watch a
>>> video online, anything a "normal" would watch. I think a list of
>>> non-comprehensive examples would be the
>>> following:
>>> 1. Stock-photography of cats.
>>> 2. "regular" porn, only heterosexual missionary style.
>>> 3. All mainstream media.
>>> 4. Start-up news
>>> 5. More start-up news.
>>> 6. Look at more start-up news.
>>> 7. Read emails form your boss at whatever time they choose to send it to
>>> you.
>>> 8. Work on a hobby, because you aren't allowed to do what you are really
>>> interested because of the psychic control that capital produced.
>>> 9. Join a group that asserts it's authority over anyone not "normal." It
>>> would be hard, considering you'd be the only normal person. But, I think
>>> meetup.com would be a good
>>> place.
>>> 10. Reject all conspiracy theories and other non-linear patters of
>>> thought as "schizophrenic" or "paranoid."
>>> The problem here is I've accepted it now, the world is just what it is.
>>> Moreover, I will likely end up retiring on disability, right? After working
>>> a menial job at a coffee
>>> shop.
>>> No Al, I won't be taking a break.
>>> On 6 March 2014 17:31, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:
>>>       Your ideology is what causes people to be strapped to beds for
>>> weeks, filled up with drugs they don't consent to.
>>> Just because they don't all exist on your margins of normalcy doesn't
>>> give you the right to stigmatize, become a doctor over night and tell those
>>> who tried that they are
>>> unworthy for whatever reason.
>>> The mafia is in town.
>>> On 6 March 2014 17:22, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:
>>>       http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7WM6XFkxWw
>>> On 6 March 2014 17:14, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>       Hannah wrote:
>>>             Jake: Try to avoid using ablist language like "crazy" in the
>>> future or
>>>             using "schizophrenic" as a catch-all term for undesirable.
>>>  Not Cool.
>>> Hannah i think you are too quick to judge and too slow to read.  I cited
>>> an article about a link between lack of sleep and the causes of
>>> schizophrenia, which
>>> is an actual illness despite your euphemisms like "neurotypical".
>>> Mental illness is not imaginary, or simply a lack of political
>>> correctness.  People who hurt themselves (or others) because their mind is
>>> playing cruel tricks
>>> on them are not doing it because people are judging them for being
>>> different, but because (in some cases) their brain is not getting enough
>>> autophagy.  This
>>> may be because of the way they were born, or it may simply be because
>>> they are not sleeping enough.
>>> If you don't understand the meaning of the term "acting crazy" i suggest
>>> you visit a mental hospital for a while and tell me the term has no
>>> meaning.  You're
>>> the ablist here.
>>> -jake
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Ronald Cotoni
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