[Noisebridge-discuss] noisebridge / the door is fucked up

Hannah Grimm dharlette at gmail.com
Sat Mar 8 03:46:51 UTC 2014


I am 100% cool with the board actually doing stuff.


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:

> I am still in a status of having ragequat, but I feel it's
> (non)incumbent on me to say that having the board take a more active
> role seems to be the best way within Noisebridge's constitutional
> arrangements to make this sort of top-down change.
>
> I do wish a bit that this stance had been more explicit in the
> election process, but I can't believe that anybody voting wouldn't
> have thought that Al and others wouldn't be taking a more active role
> in that way. For instance, enforcing the terms of the lease is
> something that we all know should be done, and seems at least to me to
> be in the board's remit.
>
> d.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Gregory Dillon <gregorydillon at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thanks Al, Great post.  People want to have hope for Noisebridge, and it
> > would be great if the brd of directors does Direct.   As you says,
> that's a
> > legal responsibility.   With the  near crisis conditions at Noisebridge,
> its
> > a necessary that Board exercises purposes.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Jake and all,
> >>
> >> I understand your frustration, because it's one I've had too. I think
> that
> >> there are a few people at Noisebridge who like it being a clubhouse or a
> >> place with free rent (but only for their friends, not the general
> public, of
> >> course) and use consensus so that they can prevent anyone from changing
> >> this. For all the anarchist rhetoric, Noisebridge is the most
> conservative
> >> organization I've ever been a part of.
> >>
> >> People sleeping overnight at the space has been a problem FOR YEARS.
> >> People living out of the space and storing their personal things there
> has
> >> been a problem FOR YEARS.
> >> Being unable to get rid of people who abuse and steal from others or
> >> regularly get stoned/drunk/loud/unexcellent has been a problem FOR
> YEARS.
> >>
> >> The bylaws of Noisebridge (our Constitution, as it were) state that the
> >> board of directors makes all the executive decisions for the
> organization.
> >> It's just that the board has deferred to the consensus process in the
> past.
> >> I believe this is precisely why these problems are so hard to fix,
> including
> >> when I served on the board in 2011.
> >>
> >> Members have gotten tired of this, which is why a board that wants to
> take
> >> a more active hand in stopping these abuses has been voted in.
> >>
> >> Jake, I know we're going to have to start proving ourselves with deeds
> >> instead of just words, but you're a great contributor to the space.
> Making
> >> Noisebridge more welcoming to hackers like you is exactly what we want
> to do
> >> in 2014.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 5 March 2014 23:27, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> >>> > not much, i was just stirred to action by the self-congratulatory
> >>> > progress
> >>> > of electing a meaningless board while the ship that is noisebridge
> >>> > slowly
> >>> > fills with sewage while waiting for a crew.
> >>> >
> >>> > what was i supposed to do, threaten to hold my breath until changes
> are
> >>> > made?
> >>>
> >>> I believe the answer is "grab a plunger" ?
> >>>
> >>> (which you did, right?)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -a
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> > --
> > Let's stay in touch.  Greg
> >
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