[Noisebridge-discuss] noisebridge / the door is fucked up

Ronald Cotoni setient at gmail.com
Sat Mar 8 03:52:44 UTC 2014


Ditto!


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am 100% cool with the board actually doing stuff.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>
>> I am still in a status of having ragequat, but I feel it's
>> (non)incumbent on me to say that having the board take a more active
>> role seems to be the best way within Noisebridge's constitutional
>> arrangements to make this sort of top-down change.
>>
>> I do wish a bit that this stance had been more explicit in the
>> election process, but I can't believe that anybody voting wouldn't
>> have thought that Al and others wouldn't be taking a more active role
>> in that way. For instance, enforcing the terms of the lease is
>> something that we all know should be done, and seems at least to me to
>> be in the board's remit.
>>
>> d.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Gregory Dillon <gregorydillon at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Thanks Al, Great post.  People want to have hope for Noisebridge, and it
>> > would be great if the brd of directors does Direct.   As you says,
>> that's a
>> > legal responsibility.   With the  near crisis conditions at
>> Noisebridge, its
>> > a necessary that Board exercises purposes.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Jake and all,
>> >>
>> >> I understand your frustration, because it's one I've had too. I think
>> that
>> >> there are a few people at Noisebridge who like it being a clubhouse or
>> a
>> >> place with free rent (but only for their friends, not the general
>> public, of
>> >> course) and use consensus so that they can prevent anyone from changing
>> >> this. For all the anarchist rhetoric, Noisebridge is the most
>> conservative
>> >> organization I've ever been a part of.
>> >>
>> >> People sleeping overnight at the space has been a problem FOR YEARS.
>> >> People living out of the space and storing their personal things there
>> has
>> >> been a problem FOR YEARS.
>> >> Being unable to get rid of people who abuse and steal from others or
>> >> regularly get stoned/drunk/loud/unexcellent has been a problem FOR
>> YEARS.
>> >>
>> >> The bylaws of Noisebridge (our Constitution, as it were) state that the
>> >> board of directors makes all the executive decisions for the
>> organization.
>> >> It's just that the board has deferred to the consensus process in the
>> past.
>> >> I believe this is precisely why these problems are so hard to fix,
>> including
>> >> when I served on the board in 2011.
>> >>
>> >> Members have gotten tired of this, which is why a board that wants to
>> take
>> >> a more active hand in stopping these abuses has been voted in.
>> >>
>> >> Jake, I know we're going to have to start proving ourselves with deeds
>> >> instead of just words, but you're a great contributor to the space.
>> Making
>> >> Noisebridge more welcoming to hackers like you is exactly what we want
>> to do
>> >> in 2014.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian.chadd at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On 5 March 2014 23:27, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>> >>> > not much, i was just stirred to action by the self-congratulatory
>> >>> > progress
>> >>> > of electing a meaningless board while the ship that is noisebridge
>> >>> > slowly
>> >>> > fills with sewage while waiting for a crew.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > what was i supposed to do, threaten to hold my breath until changes
>> are
>> >>> > made?
>> >>>
>> >>> I believe the answer is "grab a plunger" ?
>> >>>
>> >>> (which you did, right?)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -a
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>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Let's stay in touch.  Greg
>> >
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Ronald Cotoni
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