[Noisebridge-discuss] noisebridge / the door is fucked up

Charles Tang cjtang1 at asu.edu
Sat Mar 8 23:19:00 UTC 2014


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On 8 March 2014 14:55, Brandon Edens <brandonedens at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thumbs up.
> On Mar 7, 2014 7:53 PM, "Ronald Cotoni" <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ditto!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:46 PM, Hannah Grimm <dharlette at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am 100% cool with the board actually doing stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Danny O'Brien <danny at spesh.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am still in a status of having ragequat, but I feel it's
>>>> (non)incumbent on me to say that having the board take a more active
>>>> role seems to be the best way within Noisebridge's constitutional
>>>> arrangements to make this sort of top-down change.
>>>>
>>>> I do wish a bit that this stance had been more explicit in the
>>>> election process, but I can't believe that anybody voting wouldn't
>>>> have thought that Al and others wouldn't be taking a more active role
>>>> in that way. For instance, enforcing the terms of the lease is
>>>> something that we all know should be done, and seems at least to me to
>>>> be in the board's remit.
>>>>
>>>> d.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Gregory Dillon <gregorydillon at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > Thanks Al, Great post.  People want to have hope for Noisebridge, and
>>>> it
>>>> > would be great if the brd of directors does Direct.   As you says,
>>>> that's a
>>>> > legal responsibility.   With the  near crisis conditions at
>>>> Noisebridge, its
>>>> > a necessary that Board exercises purposes.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jake and all,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I understand your frustration, because it's one I've had too. I
>>>> think that
>>>> >> there are a few people at Noisebridge who like it being a clubhouse
>>>> or a
>>>> >> place with free rent (but only for their friends, not the general
>>>> public, of
>>>> >> course) and use consensus so that they can prevent anyone from
>>>> changing
>>>> >> this. For all the anarchist rhetoric, Noisebridge is the most
>>>> conservative
>>>> >> organization I've ever been a part of.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> People sleeping overnight at the space has been a problem FOR YEARS.
>>>> >> People living out of the space and storing their personal things
>>>> there has
>>>> >> been a problem FOR YEARS.
>>>> >> Being unable to get rid of people who abuse and steal from others or
>>>> >> regularly get stoned/drunk/loud/unexcellent has been a problem FOR
>>>> YEARS.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The bylaws of Noisebridge (our Constitution, as it were) state that
>>>> the
>>>> >> board of directors makes all the executive decisions for the
>>>> organization.
>>>> >> It's just that the board has deferred to the consensus process in
>>>> the past.
>>>> >> I believe this is precisely why these problems are so hard to fix,
>>>> including
>>>> >> when I served on the board in 2011.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Members have gotten tired of this, which is why a board that wants
>>>> to take
>>>> >> a more active hand in stopping these abuses has been voted in.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Jake, I know we're going to have to start proving ourselves with
>>>> deeds
>>>> >> instead of just words, but you're a great contributor to the space.
>>>> Making
>>>> >> Noisebridge more welcoming to hackers like you is exactly what we
>>>> want to do
>>>> >> in 2014.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:29 PM, Adrian Chadd <
>>>> adrian.chadd at gmail.com>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 5 March 2014 23:27, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
>>>> >>> > not much, i was just stirred to action by the self-congratulatory
>>>> >>> > progress
>>>> >>> > of electing a meaningless board while the ship that is noisebridge
>>>> >>> > slowly
>>>> >>> > fills with sewage while waiting for a crew.
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> > what was i supposed to do, threaten to hold my breath until
>>>> changes are
>>>> >>> > made?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I believe the answer is "grab a plunger" ?
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> (which you did, right?)
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> -a
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>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
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>> Ronald Cotoni
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