[Noisebridge-discuss] why would hackers come to noisebridge?

Ronald Cotoni setient at gmail.com
Sat Mar 8 23:45:52 UTC 2014


Yup.  The problem was some people, who no longer attend the space mostly,
thought that napping in the space was OK.  This lead to the grey area of "I
was just resting my eyes!" and sleep hacking.  Grey areas and hackers are
traditionally exported.   We also accept lame excuses apparently for doing
not excellent things.


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Romy Snowyla <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:

> I understand but I don't understand why we keep having these sleeping
> debates.
>
> The terms of the lease make it all clear.
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 8, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Jeffrey Carl Faden" <jeffreyatw at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Yes.
> Jeffrey
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Curtis Gagliardi <
> gagliardi.curtis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Speaking of which, there were 3 homeless people there last night, one of
>> which was super sketchy and I wanted to ask to leave but I didn't really
>> know how to go about it.  Is not hacking on anything grounds for kicking
>> someone out?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Romy Snowyla <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  It's so awesome that noise bridge is having a discussion about making
>>> noise bridge attractive to hackers.
>>>
>>> NB is not a social work center or a church .. Turning hackers into
>>> social workers is not the answer
>>>
>>> It was founded as a hacker space.
>>>
>>> Rad discussion
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Dean Mao <dean.mao at hackerdojo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  I don't just mean members only from 11pm to 10am.  I mean, nobody is
>>> allowed in the space between those times.  The Hacker Dojo is supposed to
>>> be members only from 10pm to 8am, but there's always people who sneak in to
>>> sleep there.  In the early days of the Dojo, the last member to leave would
>>> kick everyone out and put a deadbolt in the door.  We never had a problem
>>> with finding sleepy people in the morning!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <jeffreyatw at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> We did that mere months ago - made the space members only from 11pm to
>>>> 10am - but the trial was cut short by "associate membership", the policies
>>>> of which don't seem to be panning out.
>>>>
>>>> I think the members-only hours should have been given their full
>>>> three-month trial run before attempting something else.
>>>> Jeffrey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Dean Mao <dean.mao at hackerdojo.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Maybe the best way is to have the hackerspace close it's doors around
>>>>> 1am and reopen at 9am.  This was done at the south bay hackerspace when we
>>>>> didn't have doors that could be opened from the inside.  I remember I had
>>>>> to ask people sleeping to leave because I was about to lock up.  It was
>>>>> definitely a good way to prevent people from staying overnight.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Dana <dana-lists at sonic.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2014-03-05 15:25, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right, we need more people around all the time.  That is basically
>>>>>>> the solution to everything.  I would like to possibly propose that we
>>>>>>> setup a scheduling system where we can ensure 24 hour coverage of the
>>>>>>> space.  If we can't get 24 hour coverage, we need to figure out a way
>>>>>>> to deal with those situations.  I like having the space open but
>>>>>>> having the space open with no one excellent there is pretty much not
>>>>>>> excellent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 I think community/human solutions have worked best at improving
>>>>>> NB's troubles, but how do we sustain them? They come in fits and starts
>>>>>> (rebase, docents, cleaning, coming by at early hours), but are very
>>>>>> challenging and tedious, it's easy to get discouraged and burn out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whatever of the state of the space, new people hear about Noisebridge
>>>>>> and come by to learn from classes and workshops, which are excellent and I
>>>>>> think more isolated from a lot of drama. Lately I worry that even classes
>>>>>> are threatened because infrastructure has decayed to the point where
>>>>>> hosting a workshop is a challenge. You no longer know if there will be a
>>>>>> working bathroom, a stable internet connection or a roll of solder (and
>>>>>> it's frustrating to donate parts or dedicate time to fix things when they
>>>>>> go missing or are left in disarray the next time you come by).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Dean Mao
>>>>> dean.mao at hackerdojo.com
>>>>> Come visit us, we love new people!
>>>>> www.hackerdojo.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dean Mao
>>> dean.mao at hackerdojo.com
>>> Come visit us, we love new people!
>>> www.hackerdojo.com
>>>
>>>
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