[Noisebridge-discuss] why would hackers come to noisebridge?

Al Sweigart asweigart at gmail.com
Sun Mar 9 01:19:45 UTC 2014


Charles, please stop spamming the discuss list with the same link over and
over again. Your behavior is very disruptive.


On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:

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> On 8 March 2014 16:50, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:
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>> On 8 March 2014 16:50, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:
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>>> On 8 March 2014 16:07, Charles Tang <cjtang1 at asu.edu> wrote:
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>>>> Cybermagicians living in fairy land.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8 March 2014 15:45, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yup.  The problem was some people, who no longer attend the space
>>>>> mostly, thought that napping in the space was OK.  This lead to the grey
>>>>> area of "I was just resting my eyes!" and sleep hacking.  Grey areas and
>>>>> hackers are traditionally exported.   We also accept lame excuses
>>>>> apparently for doing not excellent things.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Romy Snowyla <romy at snowyla.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I understand but I don't understand why we keep having these sleeping
>>>>>> debates.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The terms of the lease make it all clear.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 11:45 AM, "Jeffrey Carl Faden" <
>>>>>> jeffreyatw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Yes.
>>>>>> Jeffrey
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Curtis Gagliardi <
>>>>>> gagliardi.curtis at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Speaking of which, there were 3 homeless people there last night,
>>>>>>> one of which was super sketchy and I wanted to ask to leave but I didn't
>>>>>>> really know how to go about it.  Is not hacking on anything grounds for
>>>>>>> kicking someone out?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Romy Snowyla <romy at snowyla.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  It's so awesome that noise bridge is having a discussion about
>>>>>>>> making noise bridge attractive to hackers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NB is not a social work center or a church .. Turning hackers into
>>>>>>>> social workers is not the answer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It was founded as a hacker space.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rad discussion
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 7, 2014, at 9:48 PM, Dean Mao <dean.mao at hackerdojo.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I don't just mean members only from 11pm to 10am.  I mean, nobody
>>>>>>>> is allowed in the space between those times.  The Hacker Dojo is supposed
>>>>>>>> to be members only from 10pm to 8am, but there's always people who sneak in
>>>>>>>> to sleep there.  In the early days of the Dojo, the last member to leave
>>>>>>>> would kick everyone out and put a deadbolt in the door.  We never had a
>>>>>>>> problem with finding sleepy people in the morning!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Jeffrey Carl Faden <
>>>>>>>> jeffreyatw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We did that mere months ago - made the space members only from
>>>>>>>>> 11pm to 10am - but the trial was cut short by "associate membership", the
>>>>>>>>> policies of which don't seem to be panning out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think the members-only hours should have been given their full
>>>>>>>>> three-month trial run before attempting something else.
>>>>>>>>> Jeffrey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Dean Mao <dean.mao at hackerdojo.com
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maybe the best way is to have the hackerspace close it's doors
>>>>>>>>>> around 1am and reopen at 9am.  This was done at the south bay hackerspace
>>>>>>>>>> when we didn't have doors that could be opened from the inside.  I remember
>>>>>>>>>> I had to ask people sleeping to leave because I was about to lock up.  It
>>>>>>>>>> was definitely a good way to prevent people from staying overnight.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Dana <dana-lists at sonic.net>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2014-03-05 15:25, Ronald Cotoni wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Right, we need more people around all the time.  That is
>>>>>>>>>>>> basically
>>>>>>>>>>>> the solution to everything.  I would like to possibly propose
>>>>>>>>>>>> that we
>>>>>>>>>>>> setup a scheduling system where we can ensure 24 hour coverage
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> space.  If we can't get 24 hour coverage, we need to figure out
>>>>>>>>>>>> a way
>>>>>>>>>>>> to deal with those situations.  I like having the space open but
>>>>>>>>>>>> having the space open with no one excellent there is pretty
>>>>>>>>>>>> much not
>>>>>>>>>>>> excellent.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1 I think community/human solutions have worked best at
>>>>>>>>>>> improving NB's troubles, but how do we sustain them? They come in fits and
>>>>>>>>>>> starts (rebase, docents, cleaning, coming by at early hours), but are very
>>>>>>>>>>> challenging and tedious, it's easy to get discouraged and burn out.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Whatever of the state of the space, new people hear about
>>>>>>>>>>> Noisebridge and come by to learn from classes and workshops, which are
>>>>>>>>>>> excellent and I think more isolated from a lot of drama. Lately I worry
>>>>>>>>>>> that even classes are threatened because infrastructure has decayed to the
>>>>>>>>>>> point where hosting a workshop is a challenge. You no longer know if there
>>>>>>>>>>> will be a working bathroom, a stable internet connection or a roll of
>>>>>>>>>>> solder (and it's frustrating to donate parts or dedicate time to fix things
>>>>>>>>>>> when they go missing or are left in disarray the next time you come by).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Dean Mao
>>>>>>>>>> dean.mao at hackerdojo.com
>>>>>>>>>> Come visit us, we love new people!
>>>>>>>>>> www.hackerdojo.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Dean Mao
>>>>>>>> dean.mao at hackerdojo.com
>>>>>>>> Come visit us, we love new people!
>>>>>>>> www.hackerdojo.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ronald Cotoni
>>>>> Systems Engineer
>>>>>
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