[Noisebridge-discuss] why would hackers come to noisebridge?
jessica.r.ross at gmail.com
Thu Mar 13 18:07:26 UTC 2014
Feminist doesn't imply "only other females", just that it respects women.
Hm, after going to the website, the mission statement strongly implies
women-only. I'm almost offended about that.
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Ronald Cotoni <setient at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am with what hep said. I am also with Naomi. This is a hackerspace.
> Lets hack the system and figure out how to solve problems. I am also with
> Al that I feel sad that UU had to even exist because noisebridge was not
> safe enough or good enough. I also understand that some people just like
> working with other females and don't even want to bother at this stage of
> their lives. I just feel it was mostly a response to Noisebridge not being
> safe and not the latter.
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am openly biased towards anarchism and lack of top-down control.
>> But we can't keep shouting down the idea of "oversight" to address
>> problems that Noisebridge has had for YEEAAARRRSSS when we've
>> certainly given the Noisebridge traditional methods that long to fix
>> For the record, I don't agree with the idea of direct
>> people-management or in changing the way we arrive at decisions at
>> Noisebridge. My idea of a positive change would be to have the board
>> managing facilities and facilitating participation -- e.g. forming
>> working groups. I believe these improvements will make a lot of the
>> other crap die down naturally.
>> And as it turns out, that's what we're going to do first.
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:46 AM, hep <dis at gruntle.org> wrote:
>> > And that would be different from what noisebridge has had in the last
>> > how? as it stands, many women do not feel safe at noisebridge because of
>> > sexual assault and the past somewhat failure to deal with it in a manner
>> > where women felt safe and listened to at nb. many valuable contributing
>> > people have left nb because of its failure to address major
>> > problems. if having a more active board helps to stop sexual abuse and
>> > the culture more welcoming to those who would positively contribute,
>> then i
>> > am 100% down with active management. i would like noisebridge to be
>> > somewhere i can bring friends to interest them in hacking, bring my
>> > childrens' school championship robotics team to inspire them to the next
>> > victory, not a place where i am fearful to go on my own because there
>> are no
>> > protections or infrastructure to ensure basic safety.
>> > -hep
>> > On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Torrie Fischer <
>> tdfischer at hackerbots.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >> I think it is important to note that in the context of a hackerspace,
>> >> there is
>> >> a difference between managing the infrastructure and managing the
>> >> who
>> >> hack on the infrastructure.
>> >> From experience, just saying "active management" easily leads to bad
>> >> and, uh, rather verbose mailing list threads.
>> > --
>> > hep
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Jessica R. Ross
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