[Noisebridge-discuss] Tom refusing to solve problems

Dayton Grant daytongrant68 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 15 00:22:02 UTC 2014


fwd'ing the below responses

> > > On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Jeffrey Carl Faden wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > no response is requested from you until you have
> > > > understood  everything i've said
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is the second time in this thread that
> > > you've accused others of not understanding you.
> > > As someone with a design mindset, I've learned
> > > that a user not being able to understand how
> > > to interact with a body of work is almost always
> > > /not/ the fault of the user.
>

fwd'ed responsee
> This clear demonstration of the Appeal to
> Authority strategy is likely to be best categorized
> under the 'Appeal Fallacies' classification at the
> http://changingminds.org/disciplines/argument/fallacies/fallacies.htm link.
> The same goes for your typically self-styled "Neutral Moderation" Fallacy
>

> > > I don't like your tone, and I think it'll be a lot easier for people to respond to your points if you take the hostility down a notch.
> > >


> > The tone argument is a form of derailment, or a
> > red herring, because the tone of a statement is
> > independent of the content of the statement in question,
> > and calling attention to it distracts from the issue at hand.
> > Drawing attention to the tone rather than content of a
> > statement can allow other parties to avoid engaging with
> > sound arguments presented in that statement, thus undermining
> > the original party's attempt to communicate and effectively
> > shutting them down.
> >
> > http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Tone_argument

a nother fwd'ed response
> In addition to the similar Red Herring Fallacy, the
> False Compromise Fallacy is another example of a strategy
> best sub-classified under the 'Distraction Fallacies'
> classification listed at the same link changingminds.org/disciplines/argument/fallacies/fallacies.htm
>
> Regardless of the outnumbering and outshouting theatre
> so effectively rallied by our ever-cunning Hackney Axis,


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