[Noisebridge-discuss] Trimmed off the board list

Naomi Most pnaomi at gmail.com
Wed Mar 26 19:04:35 UTC 2014


I'd say the voting process was a bit more obscure than it should have been.

The reason -- the very bullshit reason, I will readily admit, but here
it goes -- that I didn't end up voting was because:

* I was at a meeting where votes were being taken, and got to talking
about something or other, and then the person taking votes was
suddenly not there.

* I thought, "Oh, I still have a week."

* I didn't see anything on the list about voting, for a week (you can
check the archives, there wasn't anything posted about voting that
week).  I didn't know whom to contact (this is bullshit, I admit it),
so I just waited and intended to go to the NB meeting.

* Something came up (literally, I was sick) and I couldn't go to the
NB meeting.  :p


My lackadaisical attitude towards voting came mostly from the
historical nature of the board being a symbolic group with no real
responsibilities or power.  I do not think I am alone in that.


IN THE FUTURE, board elections will need to be more in-your-face,
involving posters and website blink-tags reminding people not just TO
vote but instructing on HOW to vote.

And I hope no one is going to argue that "it was on the wiki", because
that is one of the most weedy, un-navigable pieces of information
architecture I have ever seen.

--Naomi




On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Al Sweigart <asweigart at gmail.com> wrote:
> That's actually better turnout than at the last couple of elections, I
> believe.
>
> I'm hearing different things from different people. I want to address a few
> things:
>
> The polls were open for weeks, so I don't think you can say people weren't
> given enough time to vote.
> Kevin himself conducted the election, so I don't think you can say the
> voting process was illegitimate.
> Not only did the board members get elected, they got elected with between
> 53% and 84% of the total votes in a system that doesn't even require a
> majority to be elected, so I don't think you can say "Noisebridge members do
> not support the board".
>
> But Kevin, you'll always be able to come up with some goal-post moving
> standard that people fail to live up to. If you say the board doesn't have
> the support of Noisebridge, not that the alternative has *even less*.
>
> -Al
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Kevin <bfb at riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>> On March 26, 2014 10:59:17 AM PDT, Jeffrey Carl Faden
>> <jeffreyatw at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 13? Isn't that close to the amount of members Noisebridge has?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > We're working on it.
>> > >
>> > > By the way, that "overwhelming support" came in the form of about 13
>> > > actual people voting.
>> > >
>> > > Just some food for thought....
>> > >
>> > > --Naomi
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 10:55 AM, rachel lyra hospodar
>> > > <rachelyra at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > I personally envision a transparent process, with time for
>> > discussion and
>> > > > space made for dissenting views to be heard and incorporated.
>> > > >
>> > > > We sometimes have done this. We call this,
>> > > >
>> > > > Consensus.
>> > > >
>> > > > They told us it was radical and we said, we think it is an
>> > interesting
>> > > way
>> > > > to make decisions. Call us radicals then.
>> > > >
>> > > > If the board is empowered to do things they need at least reach
>> > consensus
>> > > > within themselves. The fact that there is dissent even within such
>> > a
>> > > small
>> > > > group means that the solution needs some editing.
>> > > >
>> > > > R.
>> > > >
>> > > >
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>> That's about 50% turnout. Additionally,  the least voted for member of the
>> BoD had the support of 7. A far cry from overwhelming support.
>>
>> +1 to refactoring the board roster
>>
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