[Noisebridge-discuss] Noisebridge as "facility"

openfly openfly at xn--kgbed8a0h.xn--ngbc5azd
Fri May 2 21:54:52 UTC 2014


Treating Noisebridge as a facility would destroy noisebridge.

Firstly for all of the reasons Heph brought up.

Second because operating a public library in the mission would be not fun in the extreme.

Making it a public facility will only promote the worst behaviors among those who
frequent the space.  Consider the community dead.  No more trust.

Heck why not just declare it the noisebridge co-working space at that point.

You can't just build it and hope they come... you build something and you get
whatever happens to show up.  In the mission that will be meth addicts and
the mentally ill.  If you want a hackerspace... with actual hackers...
you need to build a community of hackers and EVERYTHING including the space
will follow.

So, fuck the facilities.  You could run a better hackerspace out of a coffee
shop.  It's all about the people.

-openfly


On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 11:22:59AM -0700, Naomi Most wrote:
> Can you unpack your statements a little? It's actually not clear which
> "this" you are referring to when you say "this would destroy
> Noisebridge."
> 
> --Naomi
> 
> 
> On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 8:11 AM, openfly
> <openfly at xn--kgbed8a0h.xn--ngbc5azd> wrote:
> >
> > This would destroy noisebridge, and is in fact the mindset that has caused so many problems for you.
> >
> > I am not surprised you people are blind to this fact.
> >
> > -openfly
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 09:48:13AM -0700, Johny Radio wrote:
> >> Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> "Should we make people who don't make an effort to understand the
> >> technology we are making available feel unwelcome, to avoid this kind
> >> of drama?"
> >>
> >> YES.
> >>
> >> "Or should we embrace the idea of being a community facility, and
> >> honestly seek to keep available the "services" (such as public
> >> internet terminals) that some people have come to rely on?"
> >>
> >> YES. As long as those people come to NB to learn, teach, hack, or make.
> >>
> >> PS I thought the kitchen was intentionally sabotaged with the knowledge of everyone on this list, specifically to stop abuse of the space by non hackers. I'm fine with that.
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