[Noisebridge-discuss] cron job email or real event?

Jake jake at spaz.org
Thu May 8 17:30:10 UTC 2014


Naomi,

when I read Johny's post I was glad that someone else was noticing things 
that I consider problems.  Yes some of the things on the list might seem 
less important than others, depending on who is reading them.

I believe that when a person presents a list of complaints like this, 
rather than telling the person that their grievances are invalid because 
you don't agree with some of them, we should try to talk about the 
problems we can agree on.

The main reason I can't continue trying to help noisebridge is because 
when I complained about things, i was attacked and my complaints mocked.

you just told johny his list of concerns was irrelavent, in one sentence.

-jake

On Thu, 8 May 2014, Naomi Most wrote:

> Johny,
>
> The majority of those bulletpoints are your personal opinions about
> other people.
>
> --Naomi
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Johny Radio <johnyradio at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Naomi Most" <pnaomi at gmail.com>
>>
>>> I am asking because I want to see if/how Jake's perspective has changed,
>>> and whether he's aware of what's already changed in a direction that he
>>> might like.
>>
>>
>> Naomi, i'd sure like to know what's changed for the better:
>>
>> -Tonight i went to NB to look for some mosfets. There were piles upon piles
>> of garbage mixed with useful parts all over the floor, worst i've ever seen
>> it (some dedicated Members cleaned and organized not long ago-- all gone to
>> crap).
>> -A non-member has, for a couple weeks or longer, been systematically digging
>> through EVERYTHING in the Member stacks, taking what he wants, and leaving
>> the rest all over the floor of the member stacks. It's now a complete
>> disaster in there.
>> -All the component storage cleanup and organizing i did over several weeks
>> has also gone to crap. Useful stuff mixed with random junk all over the
>> floor, parts completely disorganized.
>> -A HACKER came to solder some cables (poor fool). He searched for solder
>> amidst the piles of garbage for half an hour and, hey, found a couple of
>> inches!
>> -I met a woman who informed me that she could not get a bed at a shelter, so
>> she came to Noisebridge.
>> -Various other non-hacking non-members were hanging out.
>> -I heard there's a new Kitchen Working Group, peopled by non-hacking,
>> non-member kitchen-users (appointed, Vee said, by Gregory Dillon). Gregory,
>> i suggest you also create a group called "Sleeping Taskforce"-- you can
>> appoint some squatters.
>> -Vee said "people who use the kitchen have laptops-- isn't that hacking?"
>> -I watched as a Member stretched an electric extension cord across a walkway
>> (I guess he missed the email about not doing that).
>>
>> So please tell us Naomi, where is the positive change you mentioned. I can't
>> see it.
>>
>> JAKE, is this change in the direction you'd like? Ready to come back??
>>
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