[Noisebridge-discuss] cron job email or real event?

Naomi Most pnaomi at gmail.com
Thu May 8 17:35:53 UTC 2014


No, I commented that the majority of his grievances came down to his
personal opinions of a handful of people.

I have now devoted several new email threads TO Johny's complaints, in
what I hope is a very constructive manner.  I'd say that's the polar
opposite of dismissing someone's concerns irrelevant.

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 10:30 AM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> Naomi,
>
> when I read Johny's post I was glad that someone else was noticing things
> that I consider problems.  Yes some of the things on the list might seem
> less important than others, depending on who is reading them.
>
> I believe that when a person presents a list of complaints like this, rather
> than telling the person that their grievances are invalid because you don't
> agree with some of them, we should try to talk about the problems we can
> agree on.
>
> The main reason I can't continue trying to help noisebridge is because when
> I complained about things, i was attacked and my complaints mocked.
>
> you just told johny his list of concerns was irrelavent, in one sentence.
>
> -jake
>
>
> On Thu, 8 May 2014, Naomi Most wrote:
>
>> Johny,
>>
>> The majority of those bulletpoints are your personal opinions about
>> other people.
>>
>> --Naomi
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 12:47 AM, Johny Radio <johnyradio at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "Naomi Most" <pnaomi at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> I am asking because I want to see if/how Jake's perspective has changed,
>>>> and whether he's aware of what's already changed in a direction that he
>>>> might like.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Naomi, i'd sure like to know what's changed for the better:
>>>
>>> -Tonight i went to NB to look for some mosfets. There were piles upon
>>> piles
>>> of garbage mixed with useful parts all over the floor, worst i've ever
>>> seen
>>> it (some dedicated Members cleaned and organized not long ago-- all gone
>>> to
>>> crap).
>>> -A non-member has, for a couple weeks or longer, been systematically
>>> digging
>>> through EVERYTHING in the Member stacks, taking what he wants, and
>>> leaving
>>> the rest all over the floor of the member stacks. It's now a complete
>>> disaster in there.
>>> -All the component storage cleanup and organizing i did over several
>>> weeks
>>> has also gone to crap. Useful stuff mixed with random junk all over the
>>> floor, parts completely disorganized.
>>> -A HACKER came to solder some cables (poor fool). He searched for solder
>>> amidst the piles of garbage for half an hour and, hey, found a couple of
>>> inches!
>>> -I met a woman who informed me that she could not get a bed at a shelter,
>>> so
>>> she came to Noisebridge.
>>> -Various other non-hacking non-members were hanging out.
>>> -I heard there's a new Kitchen Working Group, peopled by non-hacking,
>>> non-member kitchen-users (appointed, Vee said, by Gregory Dillon).
>>> Gregory,
>>> i suggest you also create a group called "Sleeping Taskforce"-- you can
>>> appoint some squatters.
>>> -Vee said "people who use the kitchen have laptops-- isn't that hacking?"
>>> -I watched as a Member stretched an electric extension cord across a
>>> walkway
>>> (I guess he missed the email about not doing that).
>>>
>>> So please tell us Naomi, where is the positive change you mentioned. I
>>> can't
>>> see it.
>>>
>>> JAKE, is this change in the direction you'd like? Ready to come back??
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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