[Noisebridge-discuss] cron job email or real event?

jarrod hicks hicksu at gmail.com
Fri May 9 03:49:53 UTC 2014

I like this part "resist the urge to defend your honor in front of the

I think having an in-person informal chat with fellow Noisebridge users
whom I have wronged, or that I think have wronged the space or myself, and
talking through the issue privately and honestly has lead to better
results, understanding, and relationships for me at Noisebridge. I am still
working to get better at this.

It is a bummer that Jake cannot come to the space, but it is
understandable, hopefully sometime in the future...

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:26 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

> This reply is to both of you, and everyone:
> this email list is not here for you to criticise other people or talk
> about how great you are.  if you are doing that, whether you realize it or
> not, please stop.
> if you feel that someone has maligned you, intentionally or not, resist
> the urge to defend your honor in front of the audience you think you have
> here.  Instead, please try to limit your messages to productive and
> positive suggestions of ways you think noisebridge can improve.
> if you need to talk negatively about something, which is not uncommon when
> looking for ways to make positive change, please try to phrase the problem
> in a gentle way and be realistic about it.  blasting things out as the
> worst thing ever is a form of crying wolf and will get you and the entire
> list ignored.
> and finally, remember that if you have a disagreement with someone on this
> list and seek to defeat them in conversation, you are turning this very
> valuable forum for discussion into a cockfighting ring for your own
> purposes, and that is a horrible thing to do whether someone calls you out
> for it or not.
> stop it.
> -jake
> On Fri, 9 May 2014, Johny Radio wrote:
>  Jake, i must respond:
>> From: "Naomi Most" <pnaomi at gmail.com>
>>> I mean LATELY. Sorry, you don't get points for meetings you went to
>>> in the past, not around here.
>> i have gone to meetings lately. You do not know what the hell you are
>> talking about. You're just making shit up.
>>  Your angry reactions to my innocent question -- which I asked JAKE, not
>>> you -- are all too telling.
>> Yes, they are telling that i do not appreciate people making false
>> statements about me.
>>  I never said you haven't done ANYTHING Johny. I know you do a lot for
>>> the space. In fact, you do too much. Far more than anyone else. It's
>>> causing you -- and many others following this same pattern -- to come to
>>> resent everyone around them who can't or won't do quite as much. You're
>>> overdue for burnout, if you feel you haven't burnt out already.
>> You accused me of complaining without doing anything. Now you're accusing
>> me of doing too much. What the fucking hell?
>> Please do not fucking psychoanalyze me. I do not resent anyone, except
>> people who accuse me of shit. And it's not your place to dictate to me how
>> much or little i should do. I can worry about my own fucking burnout,
>> thanks.
>>   I'm really tired of seeing people martyr themselves at Noisebridge.
>> i'm not a martyr, Naomi. I contribute to the space willingly and happily,
>> and without resentment. I pointed out that my cleanups were trashed by
>> other NOT to complain, but to point out the dysfuction of Noisebridge.
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