[Noisebridge-discuss] Problem: people seeing NB as a backup shelter

Naomi Most pnaomi at gmail.com
Mon May 12 21:03:00 UTC 2014


Yeah, this is good.  I would like to work on the language a little bit
(fewer uses of "should"), but the sentiment seems right.

This policy also implies an action that can be taken by someone
sponsoring someone tentatively (as I am wont to do) but then sees that
the person they've sponsored isn't living up to our cultural
standards:

"I am no longer sponsoring you, based on what you are doing."

There should never be an expectation that sponsorship == inviting a
vampire over the threshold.

--Naomi




On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 1:27 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:
> I'm glad you brought this up.  What do you think of this proposal:
>
> https://www.noisebridge.net/pipermail/noisebridge-discuss/2013-November/040268.html
>
>   "Noisebridge is open to Members, Associate Members, and guests sponsored
>    by same, at all times.  Any person who is not one of the above may be
>    asked to leave if no Member or Associate Member present wishes to
>    sponsor them at that time, with no other justification being necessary.
>
>    People coming to Noisebridge who don't know anyone should be introduced
>    to members who are present so that sponsorship can occur if members
>    present choose to do so at that time.  Noisebridge should present
>    itself as 'open to public visitors and guests as often as possible'"
>
> this way, you can ask around and see if any Members or Associate Members are
> sponsoring a problem person (who is presumably not one of those) and if not,
> the "process" can be simplified since there is no room for argument with the
> fact that A. they are not a member and B. no member present wishes to
> sponsor their presence.
>
> it takes the wind out of their "but i wasn't actually sleeping" argument.
>
> -jake
>
>
> joeblack wrote:
>
>> I wouldn’t consider myself in any way to be conflict avoidant. I’ve been
>> coming here for 2-3 years on and off and been around for many times someone
>> was waked and asked to leave however. The process is an extremely stressful
>> one that’s mentally draining, similar to trying to rationalize with an
>> irrational person. In fact many times they end up winning out after the
>> person asking them to leave has been worn down during the process. I don’t
>> know about other people but I don’t blame anyone who’s working on something
>> important in which focus is crucial and ruined for a decent period of time
>> by such an encounter. I’m much more a fan of prevention.
>
>
>
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