[Noisebridge-discuss] on allowing anonymous editing on the wiki

Gregory Dillon gregorydillon at gmail.com
Sun May 18 19:13:19 UTC 2014


Meant to say, allowing the spam and criticisms to happen on the talk tab.


On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Gregory Dillon <gregorydillon at gmail.com>wrote:

> I believe this is a great topic to discuss, partly because it brings  the
> good society critical concepts of how to balance anonymity, privacy,
> control, free and political political speech to our own house, to where we
> feel there results.  Rather than only debating the concepts in the
> abstract, we have to struggle with them where they effect us.
>
> The analogy I raise is to a free speech scheme  (designated no protest
> areas, and free speech areas)  that has received some widespread support.
> Which would probably be applied as locking the main pages from anonymous
> editing,  while allowing some spam and trolling and hopefully criticisms of
> what is happening at NB by people who care, but want to remain anonymous.
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Naomi Most <pnaomi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Friday, after learning that our Events listing had been vandalized
>> enough to prevent the CNC mill event from "sticking" long enough for
>> anyone to read it, I took the unilateral action of protecting the
>> front page, Vision page, and Category:Events page with editing
>> restricted to "new and unregistered users" only.
>>
>> Annoyance was registered from 2 IP addresses by posting on the Talk
>> pages for those spots.
>>
>> Admittedly, I have a lot to learn about wiki culture.  But I am
>> struggling to understand -- in this era of Tor nodes being used to
>> shield anonymous edits from punishment /anyway/ -- how it's useful or
>> necessary to allow "anonymous" -- meaning, IP-identified -- editing to
>> our pages.
>>
>> I'm worried that, in our haste to ban IPs, what we're really doing is
>> creating a blacklist against Tor in general.
>>
>> I'm looking for some arguments and perspectives on why anonymous
>> editing of our most important, public-facing pages should or shouldn't
>> be allowed.
>>
>> I'm probably going to turn off this protection myself tomorrow, after
>> Maker Faire Madness brings our most active admins back to attention.
>>
>> For education on this topic, I am reading this wikipedia page and
>> considering whether noisebridge.net fits the same constraints as
>> wikipedia.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kaiwen1/Vote_to_prohibit_anonymous_edits
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Naomi
>>
>>
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>>
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>
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> Let's stay in touch.  Greg
>



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