[Noisebridge-discuss] anon editing on front pages allowed again.
deathweasel at gmail.com
Tue May 20 18:47:48 UTC 2014
You need to weigh good and bad and come up with a decent solution. Letting
things stand is bullshit. I think that not having people's RL information
spammed is much more important than preserving the ability for someone to
make "anonymous"/"not-logged-in" edits. If it's really important, you can
wait until you get to a terminal you trust to do it.
Ban the anonymous edits AND make it so someone has to manually
create/approve a wiki account. This will make it a bit more work to
vandalize a page; I don't see a lot of people having the patience to wait
hours and maybe days for an account.
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Leif Ryge <leif at synthesize.us> wrote:
> I haven't followed this whole discussion, but wanted to throw my 2*(10^-8)
> The reason I think wikis should allow edits without requiring a login is
> because I'm pretty sure that the good non-logged-in edits outnumber the
> bad and
> that many of the good edits simply wouldn't happen if people were required
> create an account before editing.
> I've personally made tons of small wiki edits using public computers while
> Noisebridge. I certainly wouldn't type my account password into a public
> terminal, and if I had to create a new account for every edit I probably
> would've been too lazy to make many of them. I expect this is true for many
> other people too.
> In the case of vandals with time on their hands, being required to create
> account isn't much of a roadblock. I think blocking non-logged-in edits
> also blocking newly-created accounts from editing would probably prevent
> positive contributions than unwanted edits, and taking the next step -
> newly-created accounts from editing - would be even worse.
> Cleaning up spam and vandalism on the wiki is a pain, but (speaking as
> who has done a lot of it in the past but not recently) I think that cost is
> worth the benefit that having a wiki (sometimes defined as "a website that
> anyone can edit") brings.
> I'm sure there are some more things that could be done on the webserver to
> mitigate automated spam; if anyone has any specific suggestions as to what
> works well these days, I'd be interested to hear them. One thing I'd like
> to do
> is fix the system we once had which thwarted the constant stream of
> account signups, which would make the RecentChanges page easier to use.
> As an aside, I think it is rather unfortunate that in mediawiki culture
> non-logged-in edits are frequently called "anonymous" edits since they
> leave behind more identifying information (your IP address) in public than
> single-use throwaway account does.
> On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 10:19:08AM -0700, Naomi Most wrote:
> > I put it back the way it was.
> > Read the interaction I had with certain anons here:
> > The most cogent stated argument FOR anonymous editing of the front
> > pages by the anons who chose to voice opinions:
> > Q: why not just make an account with an anonymized IP and email address?)
> > A: ed1: Maybe b/c of the issue of continued tracing by the "Bad Cop(s)"??
> > www.labnol.org/internet/find-person-by-email-address/13913/
> > www.ehow.com/how_4744576_determine-sent-anonymous-email.html
> > www.ehow.com/how_5158778_sender-anonymous-email.html
> > www.ehow.com/how_6811426_track-anonymous-email.html
> > Insert your next favorite we-eventually-gonna-catch-you reference here
> > (I'm not saying I agree OR disagree, I'm just saying this was the
> > --Naomi
> > --
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