[Noisebridge-discuss] Whatever is happening in the darkroom is not cool

Torrie Fischer tdfischer at hackerbots.net
Thu Nov 13 00:29:08 UTC 2014

Against my better judgement, I'm e-mailing discuss@ about this to provide some 
semblance of resolution to the thread.

Tonight I plan to do-ocratically remove the door entirely from The Room That 
Is Dark. This decision is based on a number of discussions both AFK and in 
slack. As I mentioned at last night's meeting, I never assume that I'm in the 
right and only do things when I feel I've got a good handle on what consensus 
is. My interpretation of consensus right now is that closing the door, playing 
really really loud sounds, and giving really vague answers to "so what kind of 
hacking is actually going on in there?" aren't conducive to building a strong 
community vibe. I've heard multiple complaints about the situation from a 
diverse audience and would very much rather this not continue.

I also recognize that removing the door won't actually solve anything, though 
it will make the space more anti-fragile. The real solution is for myself to 
have a conversation with JC about this and convey the messages I've been 
receiving through the inter-organism communication pathway that is the 
noisebridge community.

On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 05:33:48 PM X wrote:
> You and I, my would be friend, have very different ideas of cool.
> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/UNsoundROOM
> P.S. I was the last one as far as I know to take the door off the dark
> room, many months ago, as to remove the intoxicated and incapacitated
> person inside. I also took that as a learning opurtunity and removed the
> latch on the inside that allowed the room to be locked. Since then it had
> become a trash heap packed with chemicals. After spending the weekend
> digging and hacking, I'm quite pleased with teh efforts of a few days. I am
> however thoroughly disappointed by BULLSHIT in the form of unexcellent
> assumptions and presumptions.
> On Monday, November 10, 2014, Torrie Fischer <tdfischer at hackerbots.net>
> wrote:
> > I also noticed this sort of thing going on a day or two ago. I briefly
> > brought
> > it up for discussion with John, Henner, RAYC, and Patrick outside the
> > Aaron
> > Swartz hackathon. My perception of the consensus then was that "as long as
> > they're doing hacking its okay".
> > 
> > I don't really agree with that sentiment and I'm glad this is being
> > brought up
> > for discussion now. Earlier today I think Rubin brought up a very good
> > excellent anti-fragile solution to the issue: Transparent doors.
> > 
> > On Monday, November 10, 2014 06:47:33 PM Rubin Abdi wrote:
> > > Enclosed space, no real lights, lots of got electronics running. There
> > > is
> > > caution tape blocking the entrance with a wrote coming out. A radio is
> > > running inside. There is a box fan running unsuccessfully trying to
> > 
> > remove
> > 
> > > heat. No one is presently using the space.
> > > 
> > > With the notes on the door the room feels like a private space which I'm
> > > against inside of Noisebridge. Please discontinue before I remove the
> > 
> > door
> > 
> > > from the doorway. Thanks.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Rubin
> > > rubin at starset.net

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