[Noisebridge-discuss] Whatever is happening in the darkroom is not cool

jim jim at well.com
Thu Nov 13 01:19:25 UTC 2014


On 11/12/2014 04:29 PM, Torrie Fischer wrote:
> Against my better judgement, I'm e-mailing discuss@ about this to provide some
> semblance of resolution to the thread.
> Tonight I plan to do-ocratically remove the door entirely from The Room That
> Is Dark. This decision is based on a number of discussions both AFK and in
> slack. As I mentioned at last night's meeting, I never assume that I'm in the
> right and only do things when I feel I've got a good handle on what consensus
> is. My interpretation of consensus right now is that closing the door, playing
> really really loud sounds, and giving really vague answers to "so what kind of
> hacking is actually going on in there?" aren't conducive to building a strong
> community vibe. I've heard multiple complaints about the situation from a
> diverse audience and would very much rather this not continue.
> I also recognize that removing the door won't actually solve anything, though
> it will make the space more anti-fragile. The real solution is for myself to
> have a conversation with JC about this and convey the messages I've been
> receiving through the inter-organism communication pathway that is the
> noisebridge community.
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2014 05:33:48 PM X wrote:
>> You and I, my would be friend, have very different ideas of cool.
>> https://noisebridge.net/wiki/UNsoundROOM
>> P.S. I was the last one as far as I know to take the door off the dark
>> room, many months ago, as to remove the intoxicated and incapacitated
>> person inside. I also took that as a learning opurtunity and removed the
>> latch on the inside that allowed the room to be locked. Since then it had
>> become a trash heap packed with chemicals. After spending the weekend
>> digging and hacking, I'm quite pleased with teh efforts of a few days. I am
>> however thoroughly disappointed by BULLSHIT in the form of unexcellent
>> assumptions and presumptions.
>> On Monday, November 10, 2014, Torrie Fischer <tdfischer at hackerbots.net>
>> wrote:
>>> I also noticed this sort of thing going on a day or two ago. I briefly
>>> brought
>>> it up for discussion with John, Henner, RAYC, and Patrick outside the
>>> Aaron
>>> Swartz hackathon. My perception of the consensus then was that "as long as
>>> they're doing hacking its okay".
>>> I don't really agree with that sentiment and I'm glad this is being
>>> brought up
>>> for discussion now. Earlier today I think Rubin brought up a very good
>>> excellent anti-fragile solution to the issue: Transparent doors.
>>> On Monday, November 10, 2014 06:47:33 PM Rubin Abdi wrote:
>>>> Enclosed space, no real lights, lots of got electronics running. There
>>>> is
>>>> caution tape blocking the entrance with a wrote coming out. A radio is
>>>> running inside. There is a box fan running unsuccessfully trying to
>>> remove
>>>> heat. No one is presently using the space.
>>>> With the notes on the door the room feels like a private space which I'm
>>>> against inside of Noisebridge. Please discontinue before I remove the
>>> door
>>>> from the doorway. Thanks.
>>>> --
>>>> Rubin
>>>> rubin at starset.net
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