[Noisebridge-discuss] Proposal to open Noisebridge at sunrise

Henner Zeller h.zeller at acm.org
Thu Apr 30 05:13:35 UTC 2015


On 29 April 2015 at 20:17, <bfb at riseup.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> At the last several meetings there has been lively discussion to bump up
> our opening time from 11:00 to sunrise. Specifically, Earl, our gatekeeper,
> is configured for three user types.
>
> Earl currently opens when an RFID key is scanned for:
>
> anonymous users from 11:00 - 22:00
> deanonymized users from 7:00 - 23:59
> root users with 24 hour access
>

the second group is actually 'fulltimeusers', which is like the other users
as well and 'could' be anonymous, but in practice isn't (but should
probably be a requirement).


>
> The proposal is to change this to:
>
> anonymous users from sunrise - 22:00
> deanonymized users form sunrise - 23:59
> root users with 24 hour access
>

I would _not_ put anonymous users in the sunrise category. We give out
tokens pretty freely these days, and I would like to continue this
welcoming gesture. However, if this brings in the burden to really, really
be sure that this is a person I can 100% trust, then giving out tokens will
be slowed down; which is not what we want. Someone coming in in early hours
should be explicitly put into that category.

So I would like to have people who can access the space in the early hours
to be known and explicitly put in the 'fulltimeuser' category.

But I am (personally) ok with having 'fulltimeuser' extended in the morning
to sunrise (and would slightly endorse it).

-h


>
> To accomplish this we use the https://github.com/cpucycle/astrotime
> library. The code is in place, perhaps ready to deploy.
>
> How do others feel about this change? If you're curious, have a look at
> meeting discussions.
>
> https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_07
> https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_21
> https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_28
>
> Some salient points for me include:
>
> Early birds have described friction with the 11:00 opening hour
> Noisebridge is lonely when empty
> Noisebridge prospers when used, not abused
> Early birds want to hack between sunrise and 11:00 at Noisebridge
> Updating RFID keys with contact information requires editing a text file
> (not currently supported via the touchpad interface)
> Decoupling Noisebridge from an arbitrary and obsolete governmental
> definition, the PDT/PST flux, is nice
> Sunrise is beautiful
> If the change is not working out, we can always roll back
>
> Thanks much for reading,
> Kevin
>
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