[Noisebridge-discuss] Proposal to open Noisebridge at sunrise

Henner Zeller h.zeller at acm.org
Thu Apr 30 05:13:35 UTC 2015

On 29 April 2015 at 20:17, <bfb at riseup.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
> At the last several meetings there has been lively discussion to bump up
> our opening time from 11:00 to sunrise. Specifically, Earl, our gatekeeper,
> is configured for three user types.
> Earl currently opens when an RFID key is scanned for:
> anonymous users from 11:00 - 22:00
> deanonymized users from 7:00 - 23:59
> root users with 24 hour access

the second group is actually 'fulltimeusers', which is like the other users
as well and 'could' be anonymous, but in practice isn't (but should
probably be a requirement).

> The proposal is to change this to:
> anonymous users from sunrise - 22:00
> deanonymized users form sunrise - 23:59
> root users with 24 hour access

I would _not_ put anonymous users in the sunrise category. We give out
tokens pretty freely these days, and I would like to continue this
welcoming gesture. However, if this brings in the burden to really, really
be sure that this is a person I can 100% trust, then giving out tokens will
be slowed down; which is not what we want. Someone coming in in early hours
should be explicitly put into that category.

So I would like to have people who can access the space in the early hours
to be known and explicitly put in the 'fulltimeuser' category.

But I am (personally) ok with having 'fulltimeuser' extended in the morning
to sunrise (and would slightly endorse it).


> To accomplish this we use the https://github.com/cpucycle/astrotime
> library. The code is in place, perhaps ready to deploy.
> How do others feel about this change? If you're curious, have a look at
> meeting discussions.
> https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_07
> https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_21
> https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_28
> Some salient points for me include:
> Early birds have described friction with the 11:00 opening hour
> Noisebridge is lonely when empty
> Noisebridge prospers when used, not abused
> Early birds want to hack between sunrise and 11:00 at Noisebridge
> Updating RFID keys with contact information requires editing a text file
> (not currently supported via the touchpad interface)
> Decoupling Noisebridge from an arbitrary and obsolete governmental
> definition, the PDT/PST flux, is nice
> Sunrise is beautiful
> If the change is not working out, we can always roll back
> Thanks much for reading,
> Kevin
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