[Noisebridge-discuss] Proposal to open Noisebridge at sunrise

Harry Moreno morenoh149 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 30 20:53:19 UTC 2015


Here are my thoughts.

>From reading the user levels here
https://github.com/hzeller/rfid-access-control/blob/master/software/earl/user.go
my impression is that the users implementing the system want 'non-anonymous
users' to be full Noisebridge Members.

It's been repeated in the past that Membership has only one perk - Block
rights for concensus.

I'd like to have early access to Noisebridge and not be a Member. I prefer
to donate $ on my own terms and believe that the system as it currently
stands makes the statement 'Membership has only one perk - Block rights for
concensus.' a lie.

Anyone object to allowing anonymous users early access to Noisebridge?

And if I'm incorrect in anything I wrote please do correct me. :-)

- Harry

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:46 PM, kjs <bfb at riseup.net> wrote:

> In this case, I would like to improve the interface for adding
> fulltimeusers. Am I correct that currently one must edit a text file on
> Earl's raspPie to assign a key fulltimeuser permissions?
>
> Also,  is there somewhere between sunrise and 11:00 that y'all are
> comfortable with? Sunrise+2hr? I feel most anon users are good users and
> key expiry will filter a majority of the bad users.
>
> -Kevin
>
> On April 30, 2015 2:24:46 AM PDT, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >+1 to what Henner suggested:  'fulltimeusers' get extended from sunrise
> >to start at sunrise.
> >
> >Best,
> >Mitch.
> >
> >
> >Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 22:13:35 -0700
> >From: h.zeller at acm.org
> >To: bfb at riseup.net
> >CC: noisebridge-discuss at lists.noisebridge.net
> >Subject: Re: [Noisebridge-discuss] Proposal to open Noisebridge at
> >sunrise
> >
> >On 29 April 2015 at 20:17,  <bfb at riseup.net> wrote:
> >Hi all,
> >
> >
> >
> >At the last several meetings there has been lively discussion to bump
> >up our opening time from 11:00 to sunrise. Specifically, Earl, our
> >gatekeeper, is configured for three user types.
> >
> >
> >
> >Earl currently opens when an RFID key is scanned for:
> >
> >
> >
> >anonymous users from 11:00 - 22:00
> >
> >deanonymized users from 7:00 - 23:59
> >
> >root users with 24 hour access
> >
> >the second group is actually 'fulltimeusers', which is like the other
> >users as well and 'could' be anonymous, but in practice isn't (but
> >should probably be a requirement).
> >
> >
> >The proposal is to change this to:
> >
> >
> >
> >anonymous users from sunrise - 22:00
> >
> >deanonymized users form sunrise - 23:59
> >
> >root users with 24 hour access
> >
> >I would _not_ put anonymous users in the sunrise category. We give out
> >tokens pretty freely these days, and I would like to continue this
> >welcoming gesture. However, if this brings in the burden to really,
> >really be sure that this is a person I can 100% trust, then giving out
> >tokens will be slowed down; which is not what we want. Someone coming
> >in in early hours should be explicitly put into that category.
> >So I would like to have people who can access the space in the early
> >hours to be known and explicitly put in the 'fulltimeuser' category.
> >
> >But I am (personally) ok with having 'fulltimeuser' extended in the
> >morning to sunrise (and would slightly endorse it).
> >-h
> >
> >
> >To accomplish this we use the https://github.com/cpucycle/astrotime
> >library. The code is in place, perhaps ready to deploy.
> >
> >
> >
> >How do others feel about this change? If you're curious, have a look at
> >meeting discussions.
> >
> >
> >
> >https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_07
> >
> >https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_21
> >
> >https://www.noisebridge.net/Meeting_Notes_2015_04_28
> >
> >
> >
> >Some salient points for me include:
> >
> >
> >
> >Early birds have described friction with the 11:00 opening hour
> >
> >Noisebridge is lonely when empty
> >
> >Noisebridge prospers when used, not abused
> >
> >Early birds want to hack between sunrise and 11:00 at Noisebridge
> >
> >Updating RFID keys with contact information requires editing a text
> >file (not currently supported via the touchpad interface)
> >
> >Decoupling Noisebridge from an arbitrary and obsolete governmental
> >definition, the PDT/PST flux, is nice
> >
> >Sunrise is beautiful
> >
> >If the change is not working out, we can always roll back
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks much for reading,
> >
> >Kevin
> >
> >
> >
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