[Noisebridge-discuss] Proposal to open Noisebridge at sunrise

Henner Zeller h.zeller at acm.org
Thu Apr 30 21:53:25 UTC 2015

On 30 April 2015 at 14:49, Torrie Fischer <tdfischer at hackerbots.net> wrote:

> On Thursday, April 30, 2015 01:53:19 PM Harry Moreno wrote:
> > Anyone object to allowing anonymous users early access to Noisebridge?
> I do. Vehemently.
> The set of anonymous users includes such people as Harvey, Sid, Rob 2.0,
> and
> other fun personalities from the 86 page. I'd be cool with giving
> identified
> people early access to Noisebridge. It isn't a requirement that the
> information in the database be one's True And Legal Name (as the state of
> California calls it), but merely the nym one wishes to identify as. My
> entries
> in there say "tdfischer" and "tdfischer at hackerbots.net". You'd be hard
> pressed
> to find a court of law that would accept tdfischer as my "legal" name.
> I honestly don't care what name people give when they deanonymize
> themselves
> in the database. I only care that people can be held accountable for
> shitting
> in the woodshop. Consensus on all levels has it that shitting in the
> woodshop
> is unexcellent. If an anonymous person with a vendetta comes in and shits
> in
> the woodshop, how could it be prevented? Would we just hope that they don't
> shit in there again? Shouldn't it make sense that we would know who did it
> and
> tell the community "Hey folks, Jackhammer Jill shit in the woodshop. Don't
> let
> her back in."?
> Being listed in the access database as "member" is just a technical
> implementation. Much like all attempts to programatically validate
> someone's
> Real Name as being two separate words with UTF-8 characters, it completely
> misses the reality of how things work. You still don't need to be a member
> to
> have 24/7 access to the door.
> However, you do need the consent of Noisebridge to have it. I'm pretty
> much a
> hardass about consenting to that and insisting that I get to know someone
> and
> feel comfortable with it before I'd be cool with them having 24/7 access.

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